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Sometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player Sometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player

03-23-2019 , 10:27 AM
1/3 at MD live Friday night.

Villain is 30s WG, has been playing very tight and only saw him take down a pot earlier with no showdown. Has not gotten out of line and is paying attention to table. Has about 500 to start.

Hero almost 40s AG, has been playing very tight as well and folded for perhaps the first 3 orbits because of card dead. Took down a couple of small pots pre, but nothing notable. I'm sure villain had noticed how tight I've been playing. Has about 450 to start.

Rest of table is filled with tight ABC players or loose passive gambling guys.

Utg straddles 6, 3 calls, villain SB 45, hero has TSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player TSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player. I went back and forth and I know this is a really good steal spot, but I ultimately decided to just call. Everyone else folds.

Flop (110): JSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player 4Sometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player JSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player
Villain 45. Hero calls.

Turn (200): QSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player
Villain 160. Hero??

I really didn't know what to put him on. The large sizing is really strange because he should know that's not a good sizing for a value hand. But then again, maybe he knows I have a hand like I do and wants to level me into calling. Maybe he got lucky with Jx. Also I had the TSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player which was kind of not good.

Comments on all streets welcome!

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03-23-2019 , 11:11 AM
Are you utg straddler, 3bet can also knock out the limpers equity but vs this sizing from tight V calling isnt bad
Flop fine
Turn is a fold, V probably binked with this sizing lol, but it also sets up a river shove as well from V
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03-23-2019 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by overun
1/3 at MD live Friday night.

Villain... has been playing very tight. Has not gotten out of line and is paying attention to table.

Hero... has been playing very tight as well. I'm sure villain had noticed how tight I've been playing.

Flop (110): JSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player 4Sometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player JSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player
Villain 45. Hero calls.

Turn (200): QSometimes we just go with it right? TT vs good player
Villain 160. Hero??

Comments on all streets welcome!

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Fold turn because of exactly what you wrote above. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were behind pre, but if you weren’t V almost definitely has you now. Calling flop is fine, but calling turn is guessing and usually you’ll be wrong.
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03-23-2019 , 12:16 PM
pre is close and can go either way tbh ; interesting spot

I'm ranging him [ATs+, 99+]

how you feel about a raise on this paired board? 32 combos of AK/AQ in his range

we can deny equity and get information; if he continues then we don't really have to lose another penny here and he will most likely check the turn to us if we have him beat so don't need to worry about being bluffed

there's just not that many JX in this guys range here and when you call pre , you can certainly have more JX combos so even if he does have an OP ; you can blow him off it with aggression
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03-23-2019 , 12:44 PM
Pre is fine given villain description. Flop is fine. Now fold.
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03-23-2019 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tmo1120
pre is close and can go either way tbh ; interesting spot

I'm ranging him [ATs+, 99+]

how you feel about a raise on this paired board? 32 combos of AK/AQ in his range

we can deny equity and get information; if he continues then we don't really have to lose another penny here and he will most likely check the turn to us if we have him beat so don't need to worry about being bluffed

there's just not that many JX in this guys range here and when you call pre , you can certainly have more JX combos so even if he does have an OP ; you can blow him off it with aggression
^Agree.

The standard V c-bet on flop warrants a probing raise. My problem with flatting is that we don't learn anything at all. We're certain to get barreled on almost any turn when we flat.

AP: fold turn. We don't beat much. My guess is that V has overbet turn bc he has no Heart blockers.
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03-23-2019 , 01:41 PM
Just to clarify, I am BB in this hand.

Also, do you guys size like this with KK/AA/AQ vs possible under pairs most of the time?

Given the large raise size preflop, I really shouldn't have many in unpaired hands here except maybe AQ+, so I don't think villain should worry too much about flush draws.

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03-25-2019 , 11:30 AM
Lotta options preflop but I probably lean to just folding. Table is full of loose gambling guys and all of them have already limped into the pot, and this guy just raised huge from OOP in the SB. He's not getting out-of-line at all and to me this is likely should be a pretty tight range here. About the only way a call is okish here is if we knew the rest of the gambloorers would all come along for the ride so we could setmine, and I think that's banking on too much being the first call (plus we have horrible relative position setmining being first to act after the preflop raiser). IMO.

I don't get to the flop but mostly I think I just fold here.

I don't get to the turn but I fold again.

The guy did a large sizing preflop because he didn't want 17 people to call and potentially crack his huge hand. He just wanted a fish or two to call and then stack off to him postflop. TTs really should shrink up in this spot and likely aren't that much different than 66s here.

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