1/2 local casino

Hero: playing lag. Villain knows I study and I like to put pressure on people.

Villain is a nit...little tag (very good PLO player)...he is also my ride home and long time friend

Limp, limp
Villain raises to 15$ in CO

Hero has 9-8 hearts in BB..calls (feel this is going 4 ways with 2 fit or fold players)
Fold fold

Effective stack: 550

Flop HU. (30$)

10-10-6 R

Hero check (plan on floating and trying to steal if I don't hit my miracle card)

Villain bets 25$ His standard c-bet here is 15...makes me think he has premium hand and I should fold.

Hero calls anyway (dam ego)

Turn 75$
3 hearts (2hearts on board)

Hero checks (plan on free card, he pot controls way to much)

Villain bets 100$

Hero is shocked. Never seen him overbet even though on ride to casino we talked about me overbetting alot lately. Still think he has QQ+. He is way to nitty to fire overbet bluff.

Hero raises to 200$ (just wanted to watch him sweat) I have alot of fold equity and 11 outs. Villain knows I rarely raise draws vs made hands

Villain tanks: Hero is laughing inside and smiles and says."That over pair doesn't look very good now does it"

Villain calls (not happily) but we have played 1000hrs over the coarse of years and knows I'm more than capable of making huge bluffs

River is 9x

Hero bets 200$ Ishmael (I had him covered he had roughly 200 behind.)

Villain tanks: moron in third seat calls clock...

Anyone else actually like this bluff?


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I didn't like the comment about the overpair, but the 9 was a good bluffing card especially if villain knows your BB calling range is wide against him.

I think it's pretty bad considering this and your friend knows your capable of doing this. The 9 really doesn't matter as it's never good. When he calls you on turn he thinks his hand is ahead so he should think the same thing on river. It's only 200 for him to call for 475 so he should call with any over pair.

I also don't like bluff because he's a buddy and ride home. I often play in game with a friend of mine and we pretty much stay out of each others way and def don't ever pull moves like this. Why go after him when there is other money on the table. I'm sure some people don't care but I think it's kinda ****ed up.

how is the 9 a good bluffing card?

9 was irrelevant. I knew it and so did he. I was repping a 10. Which is huge part of my range. We have been friends for 30 years and bluffing each other weekly for 10. There would be no hard feelings. Even though we constantly joke about making each other walk home. (Its a 2 hr drive just to play).

Obviously I think this is very spewy vs 95% 1/2 players.

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If you feel justified for your actions and believe you're accurate on your calls, it's obviously villain dependent because the way you're playing would be burning money to any competent player calling your turn raise.

Why are you posting this?

ridic spew

it looks weird anyway when you bet 200 on riv instead of jamming. your table talk also gives a ton away that you have air. i may end up folding to a (personal) friend (def not a poker friend) here just cause i don't think theyd pull of something this weird.

if he knows youre a lag too you def can't be getting away with this stuff unless the villain is a massive nit.

if you are just making an ego play against your buddy i guess it can be +life EV in that you get to laugh about it i guess?

+1
We did laugh about it.

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Because it was very interesting hand with a close friend. We talked about it on ride home and couldn't decide what was worse. My river bet or his turn call. My check/raise bluff % on turn is almost zero.





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I had 1600 stack. I put out 200 because he had 180 ish

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not really just sounds like 2 people trying to see who could play like the bigger donk.

csb!

We can do a relatively easy fold equity calc here.

X= % of the time he folds
(1-X) = % of the time he calls

0 = (475)x + (-180) * (1-x)

= 475x + (-180 + 180x)

= 655x - 180

180 = 655x

x = .2748

so if he folds 27.48% of the time here, the bluff shove is exactly the same as c/f the river. If he folds any more than that, it is better than a c/f. If he folds any less than that, it is worse that a c/f.

Thanks,

He said he was gonna fold both river and turn. So I'm guessing at least 25% of time he actually would fold. Which would make turn raise +ev and the river bet slightly -ev.

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