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So...I returned to poker after 4 months...and...got destroyed... So...I returned to poker after 4 months...and...got destroyed...

04-11-2018 , 12:13 AM
Dear 2+2 community.

Those familiar with my posts usually contained me ranting about bad beats and how frustrating bad players are, etc.

Last December, I decided that I'm in a bad headspace and decided to take a break.

I played my first local tournament after 4 months...and got destroyed.

Free roll with 2x $10 re-buy (for 10k in chips) options. Starting stack, mere 5k.

Folded a bunch of hands. Didn't win won. And the ones I played destroyed me.

1) 74 vs 33. In the BB with 74 suited. Limped pot. Blinds are 100/200. The entire table limps in...you know...coz it's a local donk fest and they just want to "see the flop" even if they hold 83o. I check my option.

Flop 7A4. I check, MP bets 200 into 1600 pot, because, you know, pot odds. CO raises to 1200. I shove all-in due to the stack size. I'll be all in at the turn anyway.

MP folds. CO snaps with 33s. Calls without any hesitation/thought. Spikes 3 on the turn.

I rebuy.

2) 86 vs J4: A rotation later, I'm with 86s on the button. Blinds are now 200/400. Limped pot again to get some hands out of the way. I decide to raise to 1500 in position. This makes all but 3 people fold.

Flop 8J6. Hijack (who was CO in my 1) hand) checks, I bet, he 3-bets, I 4-bet shove all-in. He thinks for 2 seconds this time and calls...with J4...because, you know, my pre-flop raise range cannot possibly contain AJ, QJ, KJ, JT or even J9...which all crush his J4.

He calls, and spikes 4 on the turn.

I re-buy again.

3) AA vs 72: Blinds are now 300/600. I get handed new stack for re-buy. I look down and see AA in the CO. As always, limped pot, I raise heft amount to 3600 pre-flop. Still get 5 callers. Flop 428. Near perfect flop for me. All check around to me, I shove my remaining 6400. Everyone folds. One dude calls me with 72. He looks at my cards and says "I thought you were bluffing with AK/AQ"...only to spike a 7 on the river. Luckily, I had the guy just covered. So, I'm still in it.

Thankfully, it's the first hour, we go on break, I add-on another 10k chips for $10.

4) A2 vs AK: I decide to play tighter after the break. Fold a bunch of hands then wake up with A2s in the SB. Yet again, almost the entire table limps in with blinds at 400/800. I think about raising, but decide to just flat as the pot is already around 5000.

Flop A2Q. I flop two pair again. I just shove my 9200 into 5000 pot. The button, the same dude who cracked my AAs with 72 calls me with AK. I guess, this was just unavoidable as I don't think anyone folds AK there.

I'm out of tournament.


A long post, I know. But, I'm not here to complain or ***** about my misfortunes...or say how bad those players are as I might have done in the past.

What I genuinely want to ask is, are there different lines I could've taken to avoid going bust? Especially in hands 1) 2) and 3)? Each time, I had the villain in terrible shapes. I got them to call with worse hand, only for them to hit their 10~15% and outdrawing me.

Given the beginning stack size, all-in seemed like the only option for me.

But, perhaps, with so many players there routinely betting just the BB amount into every street, even if the pot is 5000+, maybe, I could take the same route?

It is important to think about surviving, and not only focus on the amount of chips won in tournament poker. Given that, was I just too aggressive?

What adjustments could I make to prevent these kinds of bust-outs from happening in the future?

I do rather well in bigger tournaments, but in order for me to get to those, I have to win tickets off these free-rolls. Perhaps, I need to adjust my style when playing these free-rolls?

What are your thoughts?

Thanking you in advance for the time. And my apologies for the long post.
04-11-2018 , 01:29 AM
run better. don't play donkaments.
04-11-2018 , 08:19 AM
Sounds just like the night I had last night, except it was 2/5 and cost a lot more than a tournament buy-in.
04-11-2018 , 08:24 AM
Easiest game ever to beat. Results oriented thinking.

86 hand is bad play. Put in 15% of your stack with no fold equity, getting luck af, then getting sucked out on isn't run bad. You're just creating a super low spr spot where you'll need to flop a straight, 2p, or (possibly dominated) trips.

Most of the hands should be shove or fold pre. Catch cards or go home. Suited aces, A10+, 55+ jam from any position.
04-11-2018 , 04:06 PM
Bug, meet windshield.

Nothing more.
04-11-2018 , 04:12 PM
I had a similar tourney like this once I used to go to every week but it got removed. It was the only game type I was winning.

Best advice I can give for these types of tournies is to play very ABC poker. You should only get involved in pots when you’re the one RFI or calling with only very strong hands. I’d avoid limping unless it’s baby pps from the button. Also, look up some short stacked Nash equilibrium shove charts.

You can look to 3 bet some stuff but then again your range should be very tight in these games, become the nit.
04-11-2018 , 05:31 PM
OP, this is a Cash Game forum. Try a tournament forum, and don't include results in your post, as it biases responses
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