This isn’t a specific hand question but more of an open one. I feel like I may be too loose in my small blind complete frequency. I play 1/2 and 2/5 FWIW. Assuming a big blind who raises infrequently, how much of our range should we really be seeing a flop with? Rake is $5 per hand at these levels and is hard to overcome. So our immediate pot odds do go down. If there are 3 limpers in a 1/2 game, we aren’t getting the 9:1 it appears. They’ll drop $2 on the flop and continue to rake.

Really vague, I know. I’m writing this at the table so it’s not formatted well. Sorry for that. To ask a few more concrete examples. 2 limpers at 1/2, we have A6o/j8o/95s in the sb. Do we complete? How about 5 limpers and we have K3o, J4s/93s?

Thanks in advance for the discussion 🤗

I do something like this.

Completing range in limped pot:
22-77
A2s-ATs
A7o-ATo
K5s-KJs
K8o-KJo
Q7s-QJs
Q9o-QJo
J8s-JTs
J9o-JTo
65s-T9s
78o-T9o

I fold all of your examples, except for the occasional semi-bluff raise with A6o.

My completing range looks something like Spy's, depending on table dynamics.

This doesn’t change based on how many players? The quality of the players?

Of course it does, but it seemed like he was looking for a general starting point that would cover your average situration.

Did you miss the "depending on table dynamics" comment?

General questions like this are generally pretty unanswerable in any level of detail more than "this is my starting point, adjust from there as needed." If you want us to list all of the potential adjustments, no. You need to tell us what dynamics you are looking at adjusting for, rather than having us try to list all of the world's variables.

Generally speaking, the hands OP listed make awful one pair hands (if they make anything) OOP in a multi-way pot. Therefore, they are trash to be thrown in the muck.

Completing in the SB is a small, but persistant leak for most LLSNL players. I'd suggest thinking, "If I don't want to play this in the UTG, why do I want to play it in worse position?"

Thanks for the replies. I think this is a drip drip drip leak in my game. Boredom is the primary motivator and i will think of your responses when i squeeze Q3s in the future ��. I do sometimes look to c/r any reasonable hand against certain overfolding players though, so I do complete more often there searching for that opportunity.

And y’all just saved me $3 with J6s

+1!! I retired early in 2014 & after almost 5500 hrs of live play since June 2014, I can say with complete confidence that the poker axiom "You lose more money OOP than you do IP & win LESS money OOP than you do IP" is 100% true, unless your skills are far superior to your V[s].

DISCLAIMER: I am winning <10BBs per hr over my last 1500 hrs of play, so I am not a Crusher at LLSNL Hold 'Em poker.

I play 2/3 so the completing dynamic is different to 1/2. I still fold a lot in the SB though. I want ~ 4 limpers ahead and a passive BB to call those hands, so a probable 18:1.

Hands like 73o, I complete if 7+ people come in ahead, so probable 27:1.