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07-13-2015 , 03:34 AM
Do you add in impressing rubes and conning them into making a bad staking arrangement into said SLAG's winrate?
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07-13-2015 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Sure, I'll give it a go. I will say fair amount of this also pertinent to TAG style, just I feel it's more important when we are typically starting with a weaker range. This may incite riots

1. I don't worry about building a lag image. By nature of playing my lag style it becomes apparent.

2. I really focus on other players tendencies and tells, especially betting tendencies. This helps me decide when to raise and bet so I'm not capped by being "card dead".


3. I also feel it necessary to change gears. I'll often go from LAG pre to LP post, TAG pre to splashy post. I find it more important to change gears post as a maniac to balance my perceived range.


4. I find I'm more willing to fold in tight spots. Fundamentally, starting with weaker hands requires more discipline. But even with stronger hands I feel less pressured to push every premium hand for "full value".

That's all I have time for now but we can discuss these and I'll give more soon.
Good points trucdouf.. thanks.. this is lag.. what buster was telling is what we see in 6max medium stakes online games where some players employ vs reg multi table grinders.. jamming with polarized ranges consistently.. I personally felt, this never work out in live low limit games. But who knows, there might be players who are good slag and is winning consistently.
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07-13-2015 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WOAT1Time
Pot rake discourages the style and it definitely makes a significant difference at the level you're talking about.
+1
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07-13-2015 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
I'm trying to think of any guy I've played with who played "SLAG" and could possibly convince me he was winning 45bb/100, I can't think of any. I think you could be a small or marginal winner but over any legitimate sample size I don't think I buy it.

The reason you always see him with big stacks is because he is always playing big pots, when things don't go right he is gone but when they do he by nature is going to accumulate a lot.

He very well may be a winner, but I imagine them to be few and far in between.
Played with him day before yesterday and i had position on him. He was sober and was sick tight. Played just 3 hands in 2 hrs ... I think he was just trolling with me all the time with his winrate or watever.
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07-13-2015 , 06:37 PM
^People are always delusional about their winrates and abilities. Recently a thread on here had a guy saying he beat 30/60 limit for a fantastic winrate, and the guy says he doesn't even bother to keep records! Obviously the winrate is bs if he is too lazy to even bother to keep records.
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07-13-2015 , 09:09 PM
When people talk about playing styles, they are really taking about the leaks people have when they're too lazy to play really well. If you fail to bluff someone out of a pot when you can, it's a leak even if you're a TAG. If you open loose in front of a player who 3 bets aggressively, it's a leak even if you're a LAG. Beat your opponents however they'll let you.
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07-13-2015 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
When people talk about playing styles, they are really taking about the leaks people have when they're too lazy to play really well. If you fail to bluff someone out of a pot when you can, it's a leak even if you're a TAG. If you open loose in front of a player who 3 bets aggressively, it's a leak even if you're a LAG. Beat your opponents however they'll let you.
Nice post. I actually find descriptions like "Hero is playing TAG" to be lazy. You shouldn't box yourself in to a cookie cutter style of play. You should be shapeless and formless like water and adapt to the dynamics of the table.

Some sessions I am a super nit, either from being card dead or being up against calling stations. Other sessions I am a maniac raising and 3! tons of hands because the table refuses to play back at me. As long as you are consciously aware of why you are taking a certain action and have a solid idea of who/what leaks you are trying to exploit, any "style" can be employed.

I am still getting used to this. Sometimes I get mad at myself after a session if I "only won $100-200" because I felt like it was a waste of time, when in reality there just weren't many opportunities to make things happen and I should be happy that I made the best decisions possible given the options available. Other sessions I will lose $300-400 and feel fine with my play because I knew I did what I needed to do and the cards just didn't fall my way.

"Playing poker" is the easy part I think. Dealing with the psychological roller coaster is what really takes practice, patience and discipline.
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07-13-2015 , 10:32 PM
I'm inclined to mostly agreee with previous posts. I do think that when people ascribe a certain style it affects their mindset.

Adjusting is definitely a valuable skill, but I think of self-proclaimed styles as a home base so to speak.
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