In a recent live 1/2 casino no limit game I had 2 particular hands that stood out to me that I was involved in. Each one involves a slightly different board/scenario so wanted to get thoughts on how others would play them.


The common theme is they are all spots where on the turn we pick up big combo draws. I know that on big combo draw flops we can often call a 2:1 pot odd raise or even shove to a raise and in some cases be a favorite to win by river, but these turn spots seem tougher to determine a good line:

Hand 1:

Effective stacks between Hero and villain are around $160 with hero being the shorter stack. Villian plays decently a wide range and often shows down with suited cards.

Hero is in SB with As2s, checks around to a MP who makes it $7, 2 callers, hero calls, BB calls, we go to flop:

Flop is 4s5c10c

Hero checks, checks around to turn

Turn is 3s giving Hero the nut low straight and redraw to nut flush. So we have a straight and redraw to a nut flush but also club flushes could come in as well as potential higher straights.

Hero bets about $12 into pot which is around $28. Villian is next to act and immediately raises to about $55 so around a 5x raise. Other 2 insta fold and pot is now around $95...

Hero has about $145 behind and villian has hero covered

Hero?

Hand 2:

Effective stacks with villain are around $180

Hero is on button with Ackc facing around 4 players who have limp called the blinds. Hero raises to $15 and gets 1 callers.

Goes to flop of Qc 10h 3c..

Checks to hero, hero c bets $20 and CO thinks a minute and calls.

Turn is 4d, hero checks and villain bets about $50.

Hero?


In both these spots there's combo draw potential. In hand 1 we already have a very good hand but villain can draw out with a set, a club flush, or could have 67 already. In hand 2 we have no hand yet but assuming villain has something like Q10 or QJ we have a ton of outs...

Both villians had showed down suited connectors to win as well as overpairs to win even on insanely wet boards connecting a lot.


So what would you do in these spots? A few years ago playing same poker room I'd usually raise or shove these spots but now as I learn more and more I'm wondering if that's a good line or if there's other lines to take here?


Am I just leveling myself here if I fold on these turns, should I just be shoving a good amount of time, or is there another line to take?

1. i like the turn lead, you only have 90 behind if you were to call the raise? just shove on the turn, no reason to do anything else imo , you only lose to 67..
2.I would bet the turn , AP .. you could x/r ai here if you think he is betting with some draws.. if you think you have no FE then you probably have the right odds to call assuming you make another bet the times you hit

You can certainly call the first hand, but shoving might be better because plenty of cards kill your action.

I think 2nd hand is a great shove spot.

Do not fold here, if you were crushed in both spots you got unlucky.

Hand 2. You can’t act first if you are on the button.

Hand 1: You have a strong hand with a redraw to the nuts, 47bb pot and 75bb behind. Villain is telling you he wants to play for stacks. Trivial ship.

Hand 2: IMO just lead turn unless you want to x/r in order to maximise FE. But really just bet turn because you're not x/r with your big one pair hands.

Thanks all. I def appreciate this feedback. I basically leveled myself in these spots and also thanks to this feedback here I not only confirmed what was likely correct here most of the time, but also learned a little more when I took this above feedback and did some Equilab calculations. This is good stuff I can apply to my next live 1/2 session so thank you.

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