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should i rerais on the flop with TT?? 2/2 should i rerais on the flop with TT?? 2/2

07-07-2019 , 05:02 AM
Hello guys,

I just played my 5th live poker session so I still play very tight and passive.

SB( lag) : 200
utg LAG( played alot of hands : 160
MP (unknown : 150
BUTTON HERO (only played premium) : 160 Hand TT

So utg opend 12 mp called 12 button(hero) called 12 sb called 12

Hero button: I called I thought TT was just to bad to 3bet utg large opening size

Flop pot: 52
flop is :987
SB donk bet 24 utg called 24 hero button called 24

Hero button : I wanted to reraise but was not sure because utg called quickly

Turn K

SB bet 60 utg called 60. What should I do?

Over all, how did you guys think i played this hand ? I wanted to 3 bet pre but wasnt sure if that was the correct play. On the flop I wanted to reraise but I was suprised by the sb donk bet into 3 people it looked really strong! How would you guys play this hand? Thanks for the help !

Last edited by venice10; 07-07-2019 at 05:26 AM. Reason: Removed results
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07-07-2019 , 05:23 AM
12 is not large opening size, you shouldn't be scared to 3bet.
Also you mentioned he is LAG. For me this is almost always 3bet given that this is looking to be multiway. Always better to isolate and play heads up in position.
But flatting pre is I guess also a playable option, just try to let your TT win multiway, maybe flop a set. You flopped open ended and played according to its value. Raising flop is probably not good even though you are blocking nuts, you are running into SB 2pair and sets and UTG sets and overpairs.

Not the best line but you played this one alright.

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07-07-2019 , 05:29 AM
Hi, welcome to the forum. You'll find you'll get better advice if you don't give the results.

As played, you're getting direct odds to call the turn with your straight draw. Easy call.
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07-07-2019 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Hi, welcome to the forum. You'll find you'll get better advice if you don't give the results.

As played, you're getting direct odds to call the turn with your straight draw. Easy call.
Disagree. He is getting direct odds if you don't take into account that with river 6 he may run into JT; river J may run into QT. River 6s or Js may run into hands like xTss (he didn't mention if he has Ts in his hand). Also some outs may be blocked (I.e. if UTG has JJ).
To justify calling he needs implied odds. Imo, it will be nearly impossible to get paid if he hits his straight and doesn't run into bigger hand.
This 'direct odds' statement is not accurate and imo turn is fold as played.

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07-07-2019 , 06:07 AM
Against a couple of reasonable estimates for ranges for our loose and aggressive opponents we have between 30% and 40% equity. Pot odds are 3.66 to 1 so we only need to win a little over 20% of the time.

We aren't always behind with our pair of tens either.

Easy call on turn.
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07-07-2019 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ragequit99
Against a couple of reasonable estimates for ranges for our loose and aggressive opponents we have between 30% and 40% equity. Pot odds are 3.66 to 1 so we only need to win a little over 20% of the time.

We aren't always behind with our pair of tens either.

Easy call on turn.
What are your reasonable estimates of turn ranges after SB bet and UTG call ?

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07-07-2019 , 06:57 AM
On the river came the J of spades completed the flush the sb then checked utg went all in the sb tanked for 4 minutes and folded the utg said he had 88. If i called the turn should I still call the river ??
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07-07-2019 , 07:49 AM
Preflop call is fine. Jam all in on the flop.

(If UTG really had 88, he needs to work on his game)
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07-07-2019 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hunt4you
What are your reasonable estimates of turn ranges after SB bet and UTG call ?

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UTG: TT+, A9 K9s Q9s, A8s A7s, any Broadway with straight draw, any SC, S1G or S2G with pair and straight draw.

SB: any flopped set or straight, any 2pair or pair+draw with SC S1G S2G or offsuit connectors, A9 K9s Q9s, any OESD with Broadway hands.

Against those two ranges TThd has 34% equity.

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07-07-2019 , 08:23 AM
So UTG expects us to believe he plays flop and turn really cautiously with his set and then has a sudden change of heart and jams river when it brings a three flush and a four card straight? No chance this is true.

He backed into a straight or flush himself. QTss makes perfect sense assuming hero didn't hold Ts himself. 9X/8X in spades make sense too.

If a LAG wanted it known he'd bluffed here he'd have shown the bluff. Fact he says he turned a set into a bluff but didn't show tells us he wants us to think he was bluffing but couldn't show a bluff so he must have had it.
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07-07-2019 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Preflop call is fine. Jam all in on the flop.

(If UTG really had 88, he needs to work on his game)
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07-07-2019 , 10:17 AM
I can get behind shoving flop - assuming we're not extremely deep stacked.
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