Hero in SB with AKo. I have tight image
V is UTG has me covered for $200 effective
6 handed
UTG seems to be a competent reg.

V raises to 8, UTG+1 calls and button calls
Hero raises to 38
Only V calls
Flop (94)- QJ6 (2 clubs, hero doesn't have club)

Hero bets 45
V calls

Turn (184)-offsuit 3

Hero??

I feel that AJ and KJs is within his range as well as good, but smaller pocket pairs. I feel that the board hits my range better. Am I right in thinking this?

I think if you were deeper shoving is a pretty gangster move. At this depth, I think he’s more likely than not to call you off light.

I mean typically if you *are* going to cbet in a 3bet pot then a turn bet is pretty much mandatory. As played I would go ahead and ship it, but I dont really like cbetting with no backdoor club draw to go with it.

I would go $50 pre, and $30-$35 otf. AP, I just x-f. LLSNL players are infamous for being super stationary, so we usually aren't getting folds from Jx here. He shouldn't have too many FDs either. Also, it's likely that we have less than 10 outs.

We print by c betting this board with our whole range.

Also, where did you hear the bolded from? That doesn't make sense.

Agree. Also i would certainly prefer to set up the double barrell spot when we have a club in our hand,giving us lot of extra equity with a club rolling off on the turn.

Firing away blindly on flop/turn with all our AK off combos, seems a little bit much.

I'd stop thinking about what the villain thinks your 3bet range is because the villain isn't thinking that way at all unless they're slumming at 1/2. The villain is only thinking, "did I get a piece of this flop?" Most of his range has at a minimum a gut shot straight draw. Your only options now are shove or c/f. I think a shove is higher EV but is only if losing a BI on a bluff isn't going to affect your game. For many people, it does so it may be better for you to c/f.

Initially I thought the same thing. However, as I sit here thinking about what range villain would limp call pre and call the flop bet, I think he calls too much to make the shove +EV. Do you not agree?

Bart Hanson advocates for this. Basically it's far too exploitable to barrel once and fold due to the nature of 3bet pots tightening villain ranges enough to sustain 1 barrel. They're gonna look you up with every TPWK/ 2nd pair type hand but generally forced to fold the turn due to the pressure which is why it's so important to be able to hit the river when you misread or they're just a huge station.

If we’re talking about exploitable not having a turn give up range is very much so. I think this combo is good to barrel though. It’s nice not to block clubs, we have decent equity but can’t really check/call.

Think about the position that puts your opponent in. How often can you really just call down in a 3bet pot? From V's perspective unless hero is just completely out of line you pretty much have to fold here. How is even AQ any good? Especially coming from the SB.

To further illustrate; people dont call 3bets with big hands, they call with speculative hands. They also dont raise SC's which reduces his range to PP's and broadway, but we block the 2 best broadway cards so his range is almost entirely PP's that are going to hit 10% of the time. The other 90% he may look us up one street to keep us honest but fold to continued pressure. Sometimes he binks and we suckout anyway.

Both in theory and in practice, our opponent's range is going to be full of AQ combos. Range-betting this board is just burning money.

We can still bet AK on the flop sometimes, and it's definitely a good hand to bluff with, but just realise that if we bet 100% of the time here we're losing money in the long-run.

On the turn, we need to give-up a lot of the time, simply because our opponent's hands which didn't connect with the board would've already folded the flop most of the time. As such, we need to be rather selective with the hands we bluff with here.

You didn't say what the other suit on the flop was, but in low SPR situations with narrow ranges, the BDFD suit as well as which cards on the flop are suited are quite relevant. If we have AKo which blocks the BDFD, then we should definitely give up turn, since we block a lot of hands which might call flop but fold turn. On the other hand, AKo which doesn't block the BDFD is a pretty decent hand to jam turn with, since we block KQ and AQ combos, whilst unblocking the 77-TT that might float flop, as well as the BDFDs.

I shove and he folded after several seconds. So he probably had an underpair? Maybe AJ? Fortunately for me he didn't have AQ (I assume)

I don't remember Bart saying this, but I do believe you. I disagree, though. I don't see villains folding top pair to turn barrels hardly ever, and second pair is usually calling as well. That's why I like looking at our immediate fold equity with a small c bet otf, that they won't properly defend against. Then when we get to the turn, when we bet, most hands that beat us are calling, and most hands we beat are folding.

Even in 3 bet pots? Especially when 3bet OOP? Whilst fish might not value position too much, some of them definitely take notice if you're doing it from the BTN as opposed to the blinds which looks (and should be) much stronger.

I agree that we need to double barrell the turn a decent percentage of the time. If not, we rather quickly can get into the dangerous pattern of stab C-bet the flop, and our opponent can easily peel once because they see that we often give up on the turn if we dont improve.

As such, i prefer to C-bet less often here with AK off- but when i do C-bet i double barrell with higher frequenzy.