Hi all,

2/5, somewhat tight table, not a lot of OOL players now that whale busted. I have two hands to share: trip aces and bottom two pair, both multiway.

1. Hero calls a small open with A7ss in BB multiway and flop AA8r. Rec in SB who likes to donk his weak made hands donks $15 into $75, hero flats BB, folds to EP limp/caller who raises to $75. He generally has it, and tank called flop with AJdd after he limp/rr the whale earlier on A-K-5ss after cbetting and getting jammed on by said whale (so he seems kinda nitty imo as this would be a standard snap call to me). Folds to hero with trips weak kicker. $450 eff.

2. Straddled pot, hero is BB and completes 74o (questionable), flop Q-7-4ss, hero donks $35 into $50, EP limper calls, MP limper (tight, maybe pro) raises $120, hero? $400 eff. I don't see these types of players limping good Qx, usually more little pocket pair-heavy, but I block the sets so I am discounting those somewhat. (Then again, if there is a cooler table, this is it.) To complicate matters, V is quite deep with the EP limper who called my $35, so he really likes his hand to put in a big raise. Plus hero is donking rather large himself into the entire field and could have 2p as he was BB.

So, should I just GII and pray in these spots? Call? Make tight folds?

Thanks,
DT

1. Easy fold against described V after tha action, imo.

2) The complete is not questionable, it is complete spew, imo. AP, since you block sets this is usually a semi-bluff, imo. GII and pray will likely punish you max for playing 74o OOP, or pay off big and induce a bunch of tilt.

1. Why would you shove? I would just fold; we're drawing to three or zero outs versus his perceived range.

2. Pre is lighting money on fire. I like the initial lead. I would shove with the given stack sizes, and would call if deeper. We heavily block 77/44, and he shouldn't ever have QQ with the pre action. He's getting the odds to call off with his FDs.

1. Folding this, but V could reasonably have a lot worse for value after the small SB donk + your call-- so I think it's fairly close actually. This will be a suited ace, that often has a weaker kicker, a lot imo. And your pot odds are fairly good. I'd call before I shoved though. Don't see the point in shoving. I'm not sure they're limp/calling strong aces pre so I'm discounting that a little.

2. Pre is spew, mostly because you'll be burning tons of money overtime with the collection of all your other trash hands you're also completing with. It has less to do with just this hand. Long term leak. I try to avoid donking flops multiway, unless I have a specific reason for doing so. We're just going to end up leveling ourselves a lot imo when we start doing weird stuff.

Hand 1 I fold.

Hand 2 I ship for 80bb.

Wow, the first hand is close imo, tough to lay down trips, even given you're read, but I agree with the above.

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1) Standard fold. Just be happy that villain is playing his hand faceup and saving you money that you likely would have lost on later streets. I mean what weak hands/bluffs does random LLSNL villains raises on this dry of a paired board? This is just a bread and butter fold.

2) Huge leak to complete total reverse implied odds trash hands like this. Just get into a natural habit of mucking that kind of trash from the blinds= see your winrate go upwards.

Make tight folds.

1. Fold vs. this V on this board. Nitty L/C range should have many combos of better AX hands.

2. 40bbs effective, calling a straddle with an unsuited 7-high 2-gapper OOP? I'm sure you know better DT.

I’d like to point out Villain limped/rr AJ earlier in the session, yet doesn’t limp/rr AJ+ here in a multi way pot.

That leaves A8-AT, 88 we are behind and A2-A6 we are ahead of.

I can get behind a fold because we are basically playing for what’s most likely going to be a chopped pot (I assume $30ish less rake) by the river if we are indeed ahead.

Just want to confirm this thinking as I’m not sure the replies realize villain’s earlier play and/or if relevant and/or easy fold regardless because of his nittiness?

Wish I would do this.

Samo, is your name an homage to Basquiat?

RJT: I think the earlier l/rr was against the whale, and V may or may not do the same with AJ against other Vs at the table. I wouldn't read too much into the lack of a l/rr here.

I thought 74o couldn't be so bad of a complete getting 10:1 as long as I play for the nuts and don't get wedded to my hand postflop. Love how that worked out. :-) Agreed these completes will add up over time. Gotta tighten up again! Lost some discipline I guess.

Results:

I folded flop both times.

hand 1 fold

hand 2 easy fold pre flop HUGE LEAK HERE

AS PLAY I'm JAMMING

74o I fold getting 10:1.

I play 2/3 so sometimes get crazy odds to complete but I want like 20:1+ to play bottom 10% hands.

Ha, I had to look up Basquiat. Very interesting, didn't know that.

It's short for Santa Monica (CA).

Just watch a documentary on Netflix about him. That’s how I knew.