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Villain and hero have played a lot of hands together. Villain is a good player. He probably plays too many 2 and 3 gappers, but is smart post flop. Knows when to bluff/hero call. Hero and villain are both around $400 eff to start the hand.

Hero opens A K to $13 from MP.
One call in late position and villain calls from the BB.

Flop $40 A 5 8

Villain leads out for $22. Villain knows I cbet a lot of the time and I feel like he probably looks to check raise with 2p+ but sometimes he does get tricky.

Hero raises to $70

Villain calls.
One thing I do know is that if he had 67dd he jams here 100% of the time. Villain loves to get it in OTFwith combo draws.

Turn is the 5 . Villain checks. Hero checked it back.

Do I bet here? If so, how much? A bet to deny diamond draws good odds would have to be around $100, and I feel like he is folding 100% of his diamond draws to a decent bet.
At the time I felt that a $100 bet is only getting called by better hands.

River is the T

Villain bets $70

Thoughts on any street appreciated



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I like the flop raise tbh.

You really need to bet turn. This is one the best turn cards you could hope for. I'd size like 2/3 or 3/4 pot.

As played river is kinda gross but I'm not folding now. He could be block betting a worse ace.

If I bet the turn, am I *bet/folding* if he ships it?

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I don't have a donk-leading range so its difficult for me to put BB on a range when he donk-leads/calls the flop. Because of this I'm not sure if I like the flop raise. I usually call in these type of spots but I think the raise is fine too. I think we should be betting something like $85 on the turn. Now on the river, I think we need to call because of our weak-looking check back.

What hands does he lead with on the flop and then not 4bet jam? Exactly 88?
His range seems narrow here. I think I would bet/call. We can bet/fold weaker hands like AT, AJ, and AQ. Two pair with flush draw is too good to fold. I think betting turn and checking back river, or checking turn and calling river are both very close. I think I prefer betting the turn.

It's a must bet ott for value.

I am flatting the flop. I don't see a reason to raise. It seems like a "see" bet. If Villain raises here, Hero is burning $ by not folding.

After the flatted flop, if Villain checks the turn Hero must bet here.

have to take your word that villain is a good player, but it´s not really transparent judging by this hand history

b/c turn.
as played, wtf line by him.
read dependent spot imo, there are guys who somehow play Ax this way we snap call and some guys who always have a flush here and show 67 after checking and before folding lamenting they never get there.

Somehow I feel your villain might be the latter...

Grunch.

Pot sizes on each street make responding much easier.

I typically raise larger, but that's because I'll still get called wide. Obviously dependent on game conditions and H image.

I wouldn't have raised the flop. Flatting denies him any information about your hand, keeps the pot appropriately sized, encourages him to continue with his bluffs, and prevents him from getting more money in with his good hands.

AP OTT, pot is $180 with $317 back. If we lead the turn for, say, $100 and he calls, pot will be $380 with $217 back and we're at commitment not really knowing where we stand. We'll have played our hand pretty much like we have a big A or better (obviously most likely a big A, just on combos).

AP, I'd snap off the river. Card is somewhat scary, but our turn check may have induced and we believe at least some flush combos would have jammed the flop.




Edit: I'm interested to understand more about betting the turn.
@sauhund Are you comfortable getting ai 133 bb deep with "only" TPTK played somewhat transparently?

@Jarretman, are you b/c or b/f the turn? If b/c, are you comfortable stacking off? I can see maybe b/f, figuring V is bluffing there roughly never since it looks like we're committed. Is that in line with your thinking here?

I think Vs range consists of two types of hands when he donkbets this flop:

a) A weak Ax for information.
b) A flush draw or OESD setting its own price whilst at the same time semi-bluffing you off hands that are not TP.

In this scenario, there are obviously merits for both calling and raising with AK.

1) If you raise, he definitely folds all his weak Ax except maybe AQ/AJ putting you on a stronger hand and continues with all his draws. So you're charging him for his draws but letting him off the hook with worse Ax. However, another advantage of this play is you know exactly where he stands when he calls your raise.

2) If you flat, you keep all his worse Ax in thereby allowing yourself a chance to win more money on later streets but at the same time, allow him to draw cheaply. However, in this case, you don't narrow his range down as much as in option 1.

Personally, I prefer flatting and keeping his range wider because we have position and will figure out where we stand based on his actions on later streets and at the same time, give ourselves a chance to win more money from the weaker portion of his range.

Please read my post above. I think we are literally never facing a CRAI OTT because Vs range is super draw-heavy after donkbet/calling flop because weak Ax that "bet for information" folds to the flop raise almost always.

This is a diamond draw/OESD 90%+ of the time, and it's criminal to let them see a free river.

Your smallish raise managed to get things 3ways with position on one of the opponents, plus setup an ok manageable SPR of ~10, so not a bad result if expected.

With an SPR of ~10, any raise postflop will allow opponent to make us play for stacks. Do we want to play for stacks having gotten in just 3% of our stack and possibly having a fairly face up hand against a solid opponent? I don't. So I would just flat the flop bet. This is probably what we'd do with KK/etc., so we allow opponent to continue barrelling air / draws or even Ax hands that he thinks is best, while not allowing him to possibly fold dominated Ax hands (which he might not want to play for stacks with), prevents us from folding the ~best hand when he pushes a mega draw hard, and of course limits the damage if he crushed us on the flop.

As played, thankfully he didn't donk out on the turn as this would have put us in a very difficult spot where now stacks are in play.

I'm either/or on the turn bet as played. If we bet, our had is pretty face up for what it is (we raised preflop, raised the flop, and bet the turn), which is both good and bad. It's good in that it is highly unlikely we'll get played back at as it looks like we're comfortable with committing stacks. It's bad in that our hand is obvious and he can just let us do the heavy lifting if beat, and a solid player can probably easily lay down worse hands. A bet does protect against the flush draw though.

HOC has a section that has always stuck with me, regarding betting to protect against the draw vs the dangers of building a pot too big for the strength of our hand. For the draw to hurt us, he has to (a) be on a draw and (b) have the draw hit; in the grand scheme of things, there's probably like a ~5% chance of all of that being the case. But if we bet, we build a pot too big for the strength of our hand 100% of the time (if we're not comfortable working towards commitment). Which is why I would have flatted the flop.

As played, the main draw came in but I guess it could also be a blocking bet for value with a worse Ax. Probably have to sigh call given our turn check back and these odds.

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