V1 - Asian lady who plays uber weak-passive. Can have ATC, but will only continue if she has decent hand/draws. She didn't reraise with KK preflop on a previous hand and called every street on a Q109xJ board FTW. I've also seen her call all in with QJ on a QsJs10 board with 2 shoves in front of her.

One limper and I ($600 eff) raise to $20 in LP with 1010 and V1 calls right behind me and V2 calls.

Flop ($60) AK10r

V2 checks and I bet $50. V1 calls. V2 folds.

Turn ($160) 8.

Hero?

We can never check here right? Villian is very passive and unlikely to bet for us to try and check raise. She is also sticky (in a bad way) so I expect her to call with all 2 pairs no matter what and probably AQ/AJ. Any new broadway card will be bad news for me.

Obvious bet/bet/bet is obvious.

Just confirming. Hero bet $120 and she thought for 10 seconds and folded.

Your sizing is very strong here though. Seems like you are specifically targeting two pair and she only had Ax or a pair and a gut shot. Why not make it $95 and keep her range wide? If she thought for 10 seconds she was still close to calling but it sounds like we blew her off a decent hand with our monster.

So maybe that’s where I need the help. What’s minimum sizing here? What is I flopped the joint with QJ?

When is it good to bet bigger?

I agree w/ bet/bet/bet, but I think I would have gone smaller on turn. $120 is pretty big relative to pot and average player perception.

I actually liked the sizing, before I read how much you bet I was thinking 115 for a turn bet.

It might come off as strong but given her description she just isn't able to let go of any two pair hands, maybe even hands as weak as AQ/AJ. Larger sizing on the turn also sets you up nicely for your river bet.

$100-$120 is fine. Sometimes they just dont have a good enough hand to pay you off. She probably had something like KQ.

Also FYI..the tighter you play, the harder it is to get paid off in general but especially on a flop like this where everyone knows a tight player is going to have a set or AK.

these threads are pretty hilarious compared to micro stakes online

yes bet your set
on the wet board
against the fish
who, as you said is unlikely to bet and also unlikely to fold

This is an entry level forum, Samasaurus. You are going to get some simple questions. Please don't belittle people who are trying to get better.

(especially in light of the hand of his own I just saw posted in another thread...)

+1 to don’t be a dick. It’s not even an absurd question to ask since check raise isn’t a crazy line since a lot of Ax is going to bet if we check and Kx is going to fold if we bet. I don’t think this is a spot for that line but it’s worth consideration.

Hand looks well played and turn sizing is good. Don’t worry about your bet. She probably folded Kx that wasn’t going to call river anyway unless it made two pair (unlikely) or a straight in which case we lose.

If $120 bets are so scary that we are folding out top pair to a double barrel you should probably be double barreling 100% of the time with air until they adjust. I don’t think that people are actually playing that tight but if they are double barreling every hand 2-3 ways has to be profitable.

your right, sorry for the crappy reply

if you want a more in depth answer, i think you generally just want to lean towards making money in the live low stakes games by relentlessly value betting everything you can. it feels bad when you bet your set or raise with aces and everyone folds, but the truth is that the alternative, which is slowplaying, ends up rarely making you any more money but often costing you when opponents pick up flushes and straights they didn't have to pay for. theres a place for slowplaying, but thats only when you are sure the next card wont give your opponent a hand that will beat yours. otherwise you want to bet, and if your opponents keep foldng, just start widening your betting range with more and more hands until they start calling you.

post flop play is generally a lot more complex than that, but i think generally when you consider slowplaying this turn warning bells should go off like

"this is a wet board, and my opponent doesn't seem like she wants to bet, but she might call. checking is way to dangerous and risks losing a lot of value, i need to start getting chips in now." if you can get your thought process on the turn to conclude with that then thats perfect

and make sure you don't become results oriented. just beacuse she folded doesn't mean you should have slowplayed, and just because you pull off a sweet slowplay doesn't mean t was the right way to play it.

you also want to make sure if she has a hand your making her pay as much as shes willing too. If you check you might miss a street of action, which is devisating for EV because each street adds more fuel for a bigger bet on the next one, and this hand is def good enough for three.

i would make sure to consider
1. betting lets you get more chips in with a great hand
2. betting helps make your opponent pay for the draws on the table
3. your opponent doesn't like doing the betting for you

those are the three factors which most make me want to bet here

^^Good post. Thank you.