1-2 NLH Saturady about 2pm

Hero MAWG plays TAG
Villian Older white guy plays a little loose but competent, has some gamble in him and does bluff.

Hero (239) middle position opens 77 to $7
LJ(200)-calls
HJ(200)- calls
Button Calls(200)
SB(250)-Calls
BB(300)-calls

Pot-(42)

Flop- 788
Checks to hero who bets $15
all fold except SB who calls

Pot (72) Turn 4
SB checks
Hero bets 15
SB Raises to 30
Hero makes it 110
SB calls and makes a speech about oh he must actually have something.

Pot (292) 8
SB shoves All in

Hero?

Are there enough bluffs by Villian to call here. I put Villian on an 8 when he check raised the turn and then just called a 3!

He does not have 87 because he would have shoved the turn to the 3!
Could he have 44 here?
Could someone conceivably shove a straight as a bluff?
Is this a clear call or clear fold? The Shove amounts to a 1/3 PSB.
Spidy senses are tingling, I absolutely feel beat.

Clear fold, imo. This is 8x almost always. No one is bluffing on this board after that action. Only thing you beat is 44, imo.

What's up with your sizing? Can't fold after putting in more than half your stack. He probably just has quads or 99 though.

Concur with WTF sizing, esp on the turn, but even flop is way too small. I disagree that we can't fold after putting half our stack in. The runout just sucks too much, and I don't think we're good even the 20% of the time we need to be.

That said, if we played this more straightforward with a $25 flop bet, making for a $82 turn that we could bet at least $50, the hand would be a lot simpler and more lucrative most of the time.

Flop is an incredible spot to check. Think about why we'd want to check here. Start with what your opening range is and what your cbetting range is into 18 people on 887

I agree I almost checked the flop. I thought a small c-bet would let me see if anyone hit this flop and get some money from an 8. I decided on the small bet for that reason. The biggest question I have here though is that should I fold the river when I think I am likely beat to a 1/3 PSB when there is only one hand that beats me?

Right but thats the wrong big question.

What to do otf is much more interesting and more important to your wr.

There's a lot more than one hand that beats you.

Yes, there is more than one combo that beats me, so IDK how to technically work this. If we want to get into combinatorix I think he could possibly have 3 combos of 44 although that may have folded on the flop it may be there since I bet very small into a paired board. He also conceivably got to the river with 9-10 of diamond, and 5-6 of diamonds which could be bluffs, given an eight came on the river which would target my hand or an over pair to the board. He could also have 6 combos each of 99 through JJ as this table is usually not 3! anything except AQ, AK suited and QQ+, those 18 combos of overpairs could also shove the river. So, even though I feel beat should I have called for a 1/3 PSB. I ended up folding and don't know what the villian had, so I am on here trying to see if anyone agrees with the fold to a 1/3 PSB with the second nuts. So, it is very likely I am beat, but it is hard to fold a boat and the guy didn't show. I felt like a nit so bad I went and played limit HORSE after this hand.

FFS, it is not the second nuts. It is like the 20th nuts.

These combinations of overpairs also now beat your hand since the 8 on the river counterfeits your full house.

I'm not folding for another $100. Not expecting to win, but not folding either.

Thanks all for the comments. I was having the hardest time trying to figure out if I found the right fold, now I don't feel like such a nit and know I likely saved maney.

If you really think only one hand beats you, that's a major problem on your end.

I dont see anything wrong with his flop bet. Most people are not folding an overpair, a FD, T9 to that size bet. Lots of people wont even fold with just overcards.

I think in a bajillion way pot betting is fine and standard at this level. If I bet I'm betting bigger pre, flop and turn tho.