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Old 08-17-2017, 12:15 PM   #76
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Re: Short PAHWM: 33 on the button

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If he is not going to 3 barrel. Then why is calling better than raising?
Reading is not a strong point for you...

If V is most likely to b/f OTT, then we we raise, he folds.

Even if we don't think he's going to barrel the river, we still want to let him see it, so maybe he hits his 5-outer and will either b/c or x/c OTR.

There... I didn't even use the "?" mark.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:19 PM   #77
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Again, what in OP, would make you assume he is opening wider than this. Kxs from utg does not go along with OP'S read. Or any decent strategy (even from lags perspective)
Ok... I think I'm about done here. V is not UTG. OP clarified.

IMO, LAGs open very wide from EP. 20-25%+ is not unusual.

You don't have to like my statements or agree with me. But you do have to do a better job reading.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:27 PM   #78
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Ok... I think I'm about done here. V is not UTG. OP clarified.

IMO, LAGs open very wide from EP. 20-25%+ is not unusual.

You don't have to like my statements or agree with me. But you do have to do a better job reading.
Rather not,

Your strat is terrible 90% of time. Starting to see why.

90% barrel rate, and 30% open rate from Lag is not realistic.

Basing strategy off unrealistic expectations is losing proposition.

Also you still can't come up with 1 single hand that your line is +EV.



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Old 08-17-2017, 08:36 PM   #79
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Re: Short PAHWM: 33 on the button

But that 10% is pure 24ct, amirite?


OP... Drop some results on us.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:47 AM   #80
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Re: Short PAHWM: 33 on the button

V checks river

H ponders a bet size and pushes out $200.

V tanks. V calls.

Hero wins. Person next to V said he had turned the nut flush.
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:42 AM   #81
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V checks river

H ponders a bet size and pushes out $200.

V tanks. V calls.

Hero wins. Person next to V said he had turned the nut flush.
Ouch,

Him not leading river, may be telling. Do you slow play often?

Is villain a button clicker?

Do you normally bet when checked too? Or possibly bluff alot, on 4 flush boards?

I hated your line (obv), but hate his just as much, unless he had very good reason to pass up on obvious value bet situation.

Think both of you each possibly took least EV paths.



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Old 08-18-2017, 03:07 PM   #82
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Ouch,

Him not leading river, may be telling. Do you slow play often?

Is villain a button clicker?

Do you normally bet when checked too? Or possibly bluff alot, on 4 flush boards?

I hated your line (obv), but hate his just as much, unless he had very good reason to pass up on obvious value bet situation.

Think both of you each possibly took least EV paths.



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Old 08-18-2017, 04:50 PM   #83
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:20 PM   #84
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Five fiddy, so at least I can get unstuck today

His river check is interesting, even with sarcasm

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Old 08-22-2017, 08:21 PM   #85
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I would raise otf but may call depending on how his spewy and aggroness manifests itself in his game. As played otf, probably just calling turn, betting psbish if checked to or raising huge if he bets.
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:59 PM   #86
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Yea i think flop is a pretty good spot to raise. If not, then river.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:16 PM   #87
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Does anyone read into a PSB of $20 as strong? He'd cbet $15 with overs.


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