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Originally Posted by Koss
Giving them an opportunity to fold a hand that has decent equity against us is not playing perfectly. A shove here likely folds out AK, and that is a mistake by V.
I also think balance here is silly. Yes, at higher stakes you should avoid making semi bluffs in a spot where you have no value range or you are exploitable, but here I dont care too much. I want to get as many folds as I can or as many calls as I can. Open shoving maximizes fold equity.
If we are a bit shallower I probably open shove, but at this depth you can still make a healthy check/shove that puts TT in a tough spot.
Giving them an opportunity to fold Kxdd/Qxdd/Jxdd, OESD, weak TP, is basically letting them play near perfect to us. How is him folding AK, im assuming no diamonds, a mistake by him....? He’s playing vs our range, not our actual hand.
Open shoving is obviously +EV, but checking is just much better.
Why exactly are you trying to maximize fold equity? You hardly ever fold out a better hand, and you fold out all worse hands. You’re just basically shoving because “lol NFD + 2 overs, too much $ in the pot, arrrr in”.
It’s not even about balance. Checking is just going to be superior to just open shoving. Of all 5 players, do you think they make more mistakes when we check or when we overshove 2x pot?
It’s super likely somebody has xxdd here. We need to keep them in, and possibly make them feel committed when they bet or someone bets they flat, and we x/jam with them drawing almost dead. Why give them an exit by open shoving?