6 handed game
Stack sizes
hero 150bb
reg in CO 100bb
fish in bb 150bb

Have played with reg before, he is pretty solid. Reg has been playing aggro, more of a a tag. Prob views hero as a tag reg as well. Fish has been making silly bluffs a lot and is generally on the aggressive side. Have seen him make one or two bad call downs as well ( 3rd pair eg ).

Pre Hero is dealt 9J

Hero raises 3bb utg, fold, CO(reg) 3bets to 7bb, fold, fold, bb(fish) cold calls, I call.

Pre although I am oop, I am deep and IP vs fish's bb thus the open. Reg's 3 bet is on the small side, not sure why.

Flop T85 (21bb)

BB checks, I check, reg bets 13bb, BB flats 13bb, Hero???

Raise big enough that you tell villains you want to play for stacks. If possible we are trying to force larger flush draws to fold (don't want to go three ways vs made hand and larger flush draw).

Fwiw, posts are easier to follow when they are in $s rather than bbs.

If we raise, do we think V lays down over pairs often? It seems like given the pf action, v has a good hand that he wants to go against fish in particular, but is also fine with you coming along. To me that makes his hand range more weighted towards over pairs and AKs to maaaayyyybbbeee AJo. I know his play might suggest wider but his bet sizing is super fishy. Like he is dying to play a pot with the fish.

Also with the fish in the hand, you don't need to jack up the pot. You can keep pot under relative control and hit your hand before building the pot. The fish is going to put money in either way, so why over do it when you don't have a hand yet. No point in semi betting if you have no fe. We arnt gonna make our money so much from the V as we are the fish. If we call and pop the bottom of the straight and no flush comes, we can poss stack both opponents.

So if the v will fold an over pair then raising has merit. But the fish prob isn't going anywhere so you are putting in money not that far ahead if at all. Might as well call flop hit turn and put money in then.

If we miss turn, and fish check, we check and we will have a good spot to act after the fishes response to the V.

Masta--

Easiest raise ever I think

Shove that flop! You are a favorite against any one pair hand except QQ (and still basically flipping against even QQx). You are ~42% against AK or a set. Even in the worst case scenario against AQ/KQ you're still ~39%.

After your 'call' you have just over 2xpot left. The turn will either make your hand but bring a scare card that could hurt your action - or make your equity drop dramatically.

The profitability of huge combo draws (especially ones containing non-nut flush draws) comes in large part from the fold equity you get from playing them aggressively. Shoving the flop maximizes your fold equity against one pair hands and, more importantly, bigger flush draws. Against a set any raise means the money is all going in anyway.

Thanks for the responses all! Seems like the common consensus is raising. I ended up flat calling because my thought process was something like MastaC707's.

I think raising would fold out all of reg's airball cbet like AK, AQ, while he still would call with JJ+. Also I didnt want to flip 40-60% vs the reg if I can keep the fish in the pot.

Anyway the results are :

Your not deep enough...fold pre

As played raise jam turn