jj

vilian is arab, youngish with beard. he has his chips in a mess and makes weird raises with his chips. i just got to this table and had less of a read on him at the time of the hand.
villian raise to 25, someone flats we just flat.

flop q-j-6 two . it checks around.

turn kwe lead 45 he flats without that much thought.

river is a black 7. i lead 110, in retrospect seems kind of greedy sizing. he jams on me. i have 290 to call.

after he jams he looks up quickly in case i was going to snap call. maybe afraid of a snap call.


anyway, how does everyone feel about this situation? i mean i obviously have something good i am not barreling twice on kqj three hearts without something good. and despite this he jams over the top of my big river bet. but its kind of a weird line if he had flush draw to not raise flop and to just flat turn.

i have seen him there before but i don't have a good read on his play. what do you think?

You should really start the post with stakes, your position, v position and eff stacks. Are you in the blinds? If so 3b pre.

I have a tough time folding river. I doubt I could do it as the board kills so many of his flush combos.

2-5 i think i was in bb, i had like 470ish he has me covered.

Were you going for a flop check/raise?

Did you consider leading flop?

Definitely 3bet preflop

You played this hand weird and didn’t describe a lot of stuff we need (stakes, position, etc). I think this is close and if you’re losing it’s more likely to an over-set than a flush or straight. I’m too lazy to math the river pot size but if V is bad enough to think 2 pair or AK is the nuts then a call can be perfectly fine. If not it’s a reasonable fold. Based on the limited info you’ve given I’m crying calling. I generally lose to face up cards rather than face down. I gotta see ‘em before V stacks my chips.

I check most flops out position, except in like extreme circumstances. Yeah I was going to check raise flop.

without anything sitting cold I profile villain as loose Ag = messy chips.
no way we get to the flop without a 3bet.
I want to know where im at pre.
your hand gets harder after that you are under -repped.
leading flop is not crazy but the whole tempo of this hand is messed up.
if we 3 bet pre this hand is so much easier to play.
I call I have a hard time folding a set to a loose ag player with a bluff friendly board even armed with the knowledge that river bluffs at these levels are rare

3 bet pre

bet flop

turn is fine

bet/fold river

3! pre

Fold river.

You basically played JJs here the same way you would 66s- which is going to be the case more often than not when you don’t 3! pre.

That’s inherently problematic vs any competent V

It would be silly to fold after leading $110 with 3rd best set against a $390 shove, villian can always be rando spewing with AK, AA, KQ, KJ, undersets, weird ass bluffs, blah blah blah.

Came here, saw this. Agreed.