You realize he's talking about V1, and we don't care what he does?

Because we have no choice. There's nowhere else to go. Only 2 tables open and 30 players on the list. Besides, he was solid but wasn't "aggressive". I didn't catch him bluffing. He built up his stash after I had sat down. Got a bit lucky with a set vs aces and things like that. Pretty good player but not very tricky or agrressive. At least what I thought.

To be honest I probably overplayed this hand. But I had been playing tight, got a bit lucky and showed the goods at showdown. Some preflop raising had been done before with blinds taken down. And by raising I have excellent deceptive value as I would have been put on having a big pair or a big Ace. I just had a nice tight image.
My rationale for betting a small amount was that I didn't want to end up committed to a drawing situation. I also noticed V2 would sometimes overbet the pot to protect his hands. I didn't want to say..bet 35-50 and end up getting raised to oblivion. I didn't want to get smooth called and see a brick on the turn and forced to double barrel a semi-bluff.
If I had a short stack, my intial buy in ($200) or I was up just a bit, I would have shoved. I recognize this as a big leak in my game. When I'm up a decent amount (more than double my initial buy-in) I tend to get defensive. I want to keep my profit. I don't play as aggressively as I should.

So I elect to call. There's now about $250 in the pot Turn is a 3 of diamonds, completing my flush but pairing the board. I bet $125. V2 goes all in. V1 folds. Your move?

Regarding our seat, I hope at the very least we have the first seat change button so we can move if one opens up (you can move seats when one opens up, right?).

I can totally understand being a bit more defensive / etc. as you get deeper. I actually don't think it's a bad mindset at all, especially since the preflop relative difference in hands goes way down, and any mistakes we make become magnified (and keeping pots smaller on earlier streets helps in this regards).

Gross spot on the turn, imo. V2 could easily have played TT/99 this way (contemplating preflop about 3betting versus flatting and of course raising the flop to now jam the turn against what could easily be two flushes). He may have also gotten frisky on the flop with the A high flush draw. Our Jd blocks some other straight flush draws he could be doing this with, and would he really be going bonkers on this turn to this action with 87dd? I'm not even sure I bet this turn, but if I do, I think a sigh fold would be my default facing a raise.

GcluelessNLnoobG

If your game changes when you get deep, just rack up and leave. Seriously. It's incredibly foolish -- and this hand is a perfect example of why.

Turn is gross. As played, I'd bet/fold, but I wouldn't be here.

On my table, when a seat opens up, the dealer asks if anyone wants it and if more than 1 people do, they draw high card for it.

This was uncharacteristic of my typical play when I get a little deep. I usually limp, limp, limp, with cards that can make the nuts..Ace X suited, suited connectors (looking for a straight), big pairs (looking for a deceptive full house).

Well here's what happened...I paused for a few minutes, someone called "time" then I folded..Villain showed me pocket aces. No ace of Diamonds. Just black Aces. He was "trapping" the whole time. Not sure if it was a ballsy play on his part or he simply overplayed aces. I realized I am a big nit. Mentally kicked myself in the face. Then proceeded donking off my remaining money. Asked myself why wouldn't I leave, up 300?

I have been called a nit on more than 1 occassion. My best poker playing friends, the guys I know win money, say I play too tight. I decided to get out of my comfort zone. I need to learn how to win without always getting good cards, which relies on reading tells, bluffs and semi bluffs. At least that's how I think.

Truth be told, playing aggressively always seems to get me in trouble. I win way more money just playing tight, getting the nuts and check raising the bajeepers out of it.

This is way too small pre. Think about it: it’s just 11 more to call for a limper if it folds around to him with the 14 in your bet, 12 in limps and 4 in blinds out there (or 30 total), when he’s already shown interest in his hand. So, probably not generating folds. Moreover, when one calls, all call. You need to be making isolation raises that actually give you a chance to take it down preflop, and get more value when you have a monster preflop hand.

Is your strategy to bet 30% pot with a wide range on this board? If so, whatever. I’d default to betting these middling boards less because they interact With preflop passivity well, especially multi-way. When I do bet, it’d be at least half pot.

AP go all in. 80% of a straight flush + two overs. Even with a loose cold caller in there, you have some fold equity to go along with your monster draw.

Edit: sorry I thought stacks were $200. Yeah don’t go all in. Just call.


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Haven't read past the first 2 posts. Post # 2 said ship which I think is pretty awful. Hard to range V2 without knowing his postion and more info. You look weak AF and I expect him to be raising you with a bunch of draws and marginal hands.

Way more pre and way more OTF. As played I think you have to just call. I would hate to raise/fold

FWIW, there's lots of different ways to win at poker. So long as you're winning / doing alright, don't pay too much attention to what your friends say you should be doing (they're probably losing like most other players). Playing a tight (and even passive) style at these games can still be very profitable. Play to *your* wheelhouse, and not someone elses. Putting yourself outside your comfort zone is real good way to go broke. And if you donked off your stack after this hand by tilting, then obviously work on your tilt a little (or know when to get up if you can't deal with it well).

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If you consider this hand playing aggressively, you are doing it wrong Just stick with your style if it's working. I still recommend leaving when you get deep, though, because you don't seem comfortable -- and that can affect you no matter what style you play.