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03-17-2020 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin1234
How much more per hour should grocery store employees be getting paid now?
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$69
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Originally Posted by King Spew
'bout tree fiddy over minimum
I’ll tell ya something. When I get benched...like...on the toilet. I flush if I hear Anything. And if I hear something again, I flush again. And so on. I don’t see or smell nothing!

I can dodge. Can you?

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03-17-2020 , 03:37 PM
Taiwan has had quite the interesting experience with COVID19

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...virus-n1153826

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Taiwan has had only 50 cases of COVID-19 and one death as of Friday night — far fewer than China’s 80,824 cases and 3,189 deaths, a stark contrast even when taking into account the enormous population difference: Taiwan’s 23 million to China’s 1.4 billion. Taiwan’s numbers are also much lower than neighboring countries such as South Korea, which has had more than 7,900 cases, and Japan, with 675. It’s also faring better than countries much farther away from China, such as Italy, with more than 17,660 cases, and the United States, which had 2,167 cases as of Friday night.

Of the 100-plus countries and territories affected, Taiwan has the lowest incidence rate per capita — around 1 in every 500,000 people — for a place that is located so close to China and with so much travel to and from.

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On Dec. 31, the same day China notified the World Health Organization that it had several cases of an unknown pneumonia, Taiwan’s Centers for Disease Control immediately ordered inspections of passengers arriving on flights from Wuhan.

And despite poor relations with Beijing, Taiwan asked and received permission to send a team of experts to the mainland on a fact-finding mission Jan. 12.

“They didn’t let us see what they didn’t want us to see, but our experts sensed the situation was not optimistic,” government spokesperson Kolas Yotaka told NBC News.

Shortly after the team returned, Taiwan began requiring hospitals to test for and report cases. That helped the government identify those infected, trace their contacts and isolate everyone involved, preventing the virus from spreading to the community.

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Taiwan also took tough action early. On Jan. 26, five days after it confirmed its first case, Taiwan banned arrivals from Wuhan, earlier than any other country.

Not long after, it did the same for flights from all but a handful of Chinese cities, and only Taiwanese people were allowed to fly in.

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The government also asked television and radio stations to broadcast hourly public service announcements on how the virus is spread, the importance of washing hands properly, and when to wear a mask.

“We think only when information is transparent, and people have sufficient medical knowledge, will their fear be reduced,” Kolas, the government spokeswoman, said.

Residents learned that most patients had mild or no symptoms, so the death rate could be lower than what was reported. They also understood that a person’s travel history or contact with infected individuals determined their risk level, not their nationality or race. That understanding helped reduce discrimination.
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03-17-2020 , 03:43 PM
Population in Taiwan is especially risk averse with virus and infection given recent history.

Wearing masks and social distancing are not new concepts and widely accepted within the culture.

Majority of population is on the same page about the virus without much disagreement. It makes battling a virus a lot more efficient.
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03-17-2020 , 03:57 PM
It's almost as if you take something like this seriously early on and the government acts quickly and intelligently w/ the population also bought in, that you can battle something like this effectively.
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03-17-2020 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
It's almost as if you take something like this seriously early on and the government acts quickly and intelligently w/ the population also bought in, that you can battle something like this effectively.
Indeed.

Yet, amazingly, they have not quarantined the entire population.

Maybe they're not taking it seriously enough?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/16...virus-success/

Seems like the critical parts of their strategy were:

1) Stop travelers from Wuhan Province (and eventually all from mainland China)

2) Quarantine affected individuals

In Taiwan, most residents carry on as normal, with offices and schools open. Many restaurants, gyms, and cafes in the capital, Taipei, are still bustling, although most premises will take temperatures and spray hands with sanitiser before allowing customers in.

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03-17-2020 , 04:33 PM
When you take steps early to contain it, then yes you don't need to lockdown the entire population.

What happened in Italy and is happening here is that we had too many people like you. And amazingly still to this day there are many here in the U.S. because we haven't hit a high enough number yet. You will keep crying swine flu numbers until they're surpassed.

But keep pretending like your smart. Thank Zeus you aren't in charge.
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03-17-2020 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
When you take steps early to contain it, then yes you don't need to lockdown the entire population.

What happened in Italy and is happening here is that we had too many people like you. And amazingly still to this day there are many here in the U.S. because we haven't hit a high enough number yet. You will keep crying swine flu numbers until they're surpassed.

But keep pretending like your smart. Thank Zeus you aren't in charge.
I have been consistent. No need to panic. Take appropriate steps to contain the spread.

Imagine reading this story for the first time today, 17-MAR instead of when it was written 04-FEB.

Trump's January travel ban and traveler quarantine from Wuhan province was heavily criticized at the time, yet seemed to be 100% correct.

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Coronavirus quarantine, travel ban could backfire, experts fear

By ALICE MIRANDA OLLSTEIN

02/04/2020 04:42 PM EST

Updated: 02/04/2020 06:04 PM EST

The Trump administration’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could undercut international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent, according to a growing chorus of public health experts and lawmakers.

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The administration on Sunday ordered recent U.S. travelers to China’s Hubei province — the epicenter of the outbreak — to be held in a mandatory quarantine for two weeks. The last time the government took such a step was in the late 1960s, when it held people on the U.S.-Mexico border who lacked evidence of smallpox vaccination. Currently, 195 Americans who were evacuated from the Wuhan area last week are quarantined on a military base in Ontario, Calif. — and the number is expected to grow as more people are flown out.

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Administration officials are publicly wrestling with some of these concerns. On a call with reporters Friday, CDC officials acknowledged the policies could “induce fear and stigma,” but argued the public health benefits outweighed the downsides.

“We would rather be remembered for overreacting than underreacting,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.
I believe I reminded you of this in The Pen a couple weeks ago.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=5657

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03-17-2020 , 04:55 PM
lol no you've been quite consistently ignorant of the situation.

Constantly touting bad analogies and making comments on why this isn't a big deal. Some brag about how you went out to a dinner while everyone else was staying in.

Given your lol arguments on religion I'm not surprised about your delusions on the positions you hold.
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03-17-2020 , 05:07 PM
hey spyu - can u give an update as to what its currently like being under lockdown? Seems NYC is on its way to the same. I hear the hospitals in the SF area are already having issues...true??

thank you and stay safe mang!!
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03-17-2020 , 05:15 PM
Midwest here.

No paper products, rice, potatoes, bananas?, meat, water. Other than that, business as usual.
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03-17-2020 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin1234
How much more per hour should grocery store employees be getting paid now?

Can the virus be spread through a tip jar? They have harder jobs than ferrying a beer @20 paces every 30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by rickroll
ignore oscar and current administration... at what point do you draw the line with family members in government and correlated businesses? Hypothetically, like for an administration 20 years from now.

I don't think that's an unfair question.

If you can state one variation of it is ok then you should be able to state when it's not ok.

tax rebates? contracts? monopoly? selective prosecution?
I'd draw it at a gov granted monopoly, aka socialism. Relatives of politicals do get hired by businesses. I'd actually prefer they do actual work in the economy rather than just operate inside the Washington bubble.

IT was kinda of already being practiced. Every sale on my fav bran cereal got picked clean long before I was awake.

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
lol no you've been quite consistently ignorant of the situation.

Constantly touting bad analogies and making comments on why this isn't a big deal. Some brag about how you went out to a dinner while everyone else was staying in.

Given your lol arguments on religion I'm not surprised about your delusions on the positions you hold.
You and 76 are never living down the Mike Pence thing.
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03-17-2020 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
hey spyu - can u give an update as to what its currently like being under lockdown? Seems NYC is on its way to the same. I hear the hospitals in the SF area are already having issues...true??

thank you and stay safe mang!!
Thanks Squid. Not sure about the hospitals in the SF area. I know they've been setting up tents to screen people before they enter, but I don't know if they're being overloaded or anything yet.

So my county issued an shelter in place order for 3 wks. Violation of the order is considered a misdemeanor.

Main points for individuals are :

-You have to maintain a minimum distance of 6 ft from another person when outside your home.

-People can leave their residence for essential functions only.
This is defined basically as anything you need medically or food/water and anything you would need for safety in your residence. So grocery store, pharmacy, hospital. Other than that you stay home.

For me my place of work already had us working from home a couple of weeks ago. They've tightened up this week adding on that you actually can't come into work unless you have authorization. I had to go in yesterday and it was basically a ghost town. They asked me a bunch of questions at the gate and also took my temperature.

Everyone's continuing to work from home for the next 3 wks at least.

For me, not much different other than not being able to go out to eat and having to work out at home.

I stocked up on supplies pretty early on when I first heard about what was happening in Wuhan. I had a feeling it wasn't going to be good. So I haven't had to do much shopping other than just getting things I want for the week like steaks and eggs. I heard there was a run on all the stores yesterday when people heard the lockdown happened. I guess they were under the impression that grocery stores wouldn't be operating.

If you do go out there's significantly less traffic out on the streets so that's nice.

Other than that nothing out of the ordinary. No Purge scenarios yet, but I did stock up on ammunition just in case.
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03-17-2020 , 06:06 PM
My Bay Area relatives declined to relocate to the boondocks because they need super high-speed internet for work and school. #gottahavepriorities
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03-17-2020 , 06:50 PM
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Anti vaxxers must be losing their s**t over so many ppl looking forward to a vaccine. Those threads must be another level of just wow


Liv Boeree shared some anti vaxxer pages in her Twitter a few weeks back. Basically the gubmint, 5G and Bill Gates are to blame
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03-17-2020 , 06:51 PM


We’ve had this in Australia the past few days. Doesn’t help much if there’s no meat, rice, pasta, medicine and paper products on the shelves
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03-17-2020 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
So my county issued an shelter in place order for 3 wks. Violation of the order is considered a misdemeanor.

Main points for individuals are :

-You have to maintain a minimum distance of 6 ft from another person when outside your home.
Does this mean I can't be arrested when the police harass me for holding my wife's hand and I tell them to **** themselves?

Authoritarian response to the virus is a greater harm to the overwhelming majority of people than the virus itself.
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03-17-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Hope your daughter feels better, fw. Stay well


So much this


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03-17-2020 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Does this mean I can't be arrested when the police harass me for holding my wife's hand and I tell them to **** themselves?

Authoritarian response to the virus is a greater harm to the overwhelming majority of people than the virus itself.
If you're Black or Latino I would say there's a decent chance yes.
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03-17-2020 , 08:49 PM
CO checking in.

No TP, paper towels, meat, bacon, eggs, rice, beans, hotdogs, bacon. Very limited laundry detergent and cleaning supplies.

Restaurants, bars, gyms, and casinos closed for 8 weeks. All Vail ski resorts have closed for the season, after originally closing for 1 week. I suspect most Ikon resorts will follow soon.

It's cycling season for me now.

Interesting times ahead.

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03-17-2020 , 08:53 PM
Honest question what's the over under on when americans take to the streets with their stock pile of weapons
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03-17-2020 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Honest question what's the over under on when americans take to the streets with their stock pile of weapons
Depends what area you are talking about.
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03-17-2020 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Honest question what's the over under on when americans take to the streets with their stock pile of weapons
Never. We’re all talk and no action.
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03-17-2020 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Depends what area you are talking about.
I'm guessing anywhere there's a slave owner statue would be a good place to start. What would an american here put the o/u at in a place like that
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