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03-16-2020 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath

all in all, could well just be a flu my daughter has and we'll probably never know because the local hospital isn't testing unless you have come into contact with a known sufferer and given they're not testing people...nobody knows if they've come into contact with a known sufferer! catch 22 right there
It's almost like testing everyone would have been a better strategy. Who would have known?
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03-16-2020 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
thanks for continued wishes guys. Daughter seems to be recovering - still feels shitty with a cough and temperature but was well enough to be a ***** to her sister last night.

I've been fighting off some kind of infection the past few days. have about 10 mouth ulcers, a light temp, scratchy throat and muscle soreness but no other symptoms. wife also coming down with something.

all in all, could well just be a flu my daughter has and we'll probably never know because the local hospital isn't testing unless you have come into contact with a known sufferer and given they're not testing people...nobody knows if they've come into contact with a known sufferer! catch 22 right there
This sounds like a mild case of the AIDs
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03-16-2020 , 11:07 PM
We trying to go to Mars and cant even test people for a viral pandemic. Rigggggght. Canada's pm said his advisors told him not to get tested (after his wife tested positive) bc he wasn't showing symptoms, and it would be a waste of a test which begs the question..where the fuxk are all the test kits? I'm sure if each test kit had the ability to bomb a foreign land into oblivion we would never run out
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03-16-2020 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
We trying to go to Mars and cant even test people for a viral pandemic. Rigggggght. Canada's pm said his advisors told him not to get tested (after his wife tested positive) bc he wasn't showing symptoms, and it would be a waste of a test which begs the question..where the fuxk are all the test kits? I'm sure if each test kit had the ability to bomb a foreign land into oblivion we would never run out
idris elba tests positive but trudeau doesn't need a test. at least we know who has been banging his wife now.
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03-17-2020 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
We trying to go to Mars and cant even test people for a viral pandemic. Rigggggght. Canada's pm said his advisors told him not to get tested (after his wife tested positive) bc he wasn't showing symptoms, and it would be a waste of a test which begs the question..where the fuxk are all the test kits? I'm sure if each test kit had the ability to bomb a foreign land into oblivion we would never run out
confirmed trudeau does not bang his wife but idris elba apparently does
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03-17-2020 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Italy not the place to be.

It's interesting though seeing the outcome differences between a place like Italy and a place like Singapore. Singapore was top 5 in terms of reported cases early on. Italy will prove to be a cautionary tale of what can happen if you have a population ruled by the it's just a flu bros.

Italy was very much like the US in the beginning. While a minority of people were jumping up and down yelling that the hurricane is about to hit, 2wks ago people were just out and about without a care in the world because it's just the flu.

I'm happy to see the sentiment has changed quite a bit in the U.S. now and am hopeful that we get things under control and have a positive outcome.
I read that in italy, 90% or so who died were over the age of 80... Italy has a very aging population.

Moreover, there are definitely different strains of the virus going on. From what I read from doctors fighting the virus in Wuhan, the strain in Wuhan was deadly. Once you got put on the ventilator, you are pretty much dead. The death rate outside of Wuhan is another strain, a flu-like strain. symptoms can be even milder than flu. Look at Korea, Japan, they tested many people, so you get the real denominator in the death rate.

but they say that the RNA nuclear of the virus, whatever that is, can mutate and get deadly. But looking at the situations outside of wuhan, korean, japan, etc, seems like mutation never gotten hold
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03-17-2020 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
We trying to go to Mars and cant even test people for a viral pandemic. Rigggggght. Canada's pm said his advisors told him not to get tested (after his wife tested positive) bc he wasn't showing symptoms, and it would be a waste of a test which begs the question..where the fuxk are all the test kits? I'm sure if each test kit had the ability to bomb a foreign land into oblivion we would never run out
it's a new virus, we need to manufacture these test kits.. and you know that manufacturing in North america has been killed essentially by the elites
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03-17-2020 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
it's a new virus, we need to manufacture these test kits.. and you know that manufacturing in North america has been killed essentially by the elites
not true, china has warehouses of kits right now waiting to be shipped to the US for just a few bucks but governement regulation prevents that

this is a policy driven shortage not a market, production, or logistic shortage

we purposefully chose the no test kit path
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03-17-2020 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
confirmed trudeau does not bang his wife but idris elba apparently does
Idris caught it from Tom Hanks apparently.

Rudy Gobert was with the Trudeaus
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03-17-2020 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
not true, china has warehouses of kits right now waiting to be shipped to the US for just a few bucks but governement regulation prevents that

this is a policy driven shortage not a market, production, or logistic shortage

we purposefully chose the no test kit path
To keep perceived numbers down?
I read that a Doctor in Seattle wanted to test for a virus for weeks, but was repeatedly denied the permission to, and then went ahead and did it anyway.
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03-17-2020 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
not true, china has warehouses of kits right now waiting to be shipped to the US for just a few bucks but governement regulation prevents that

this is a policy driven shortage not a market, production, or logistic shortage

we purposefully chose the no test kit path
first of all, where do you get that information? i googled around, and can't find any.

second of all, why is the US depend on china for the production of these things? especially china is the source of the virus?
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03-17-2020 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
confirmed trudeau does not bang his wife but idris elba apparently does
Whoever is doing it I could likely be convinced to watch.
Unless it’s Trudeau actually.
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03-17-2020 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
To keep perceived numbers down?
I read that a Doctor in Seattle wanted to test for a virus for weeks, but was repeatedly denied the permission to, and then went ahead and did it anyway.
and what does that say about the deadliness of the virus? imagine millions of people walking around with this virus and only about 80 people died.

How many people died of H1N1 in US? where was the panick then?
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03-17-2020 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
why is the US depend on china for the production of these things? especially china is the source of the virus?
It's true that the US should not depend on china for the production of these things and many other things but the fact is we depend on China for the production of nearly everything. As for China being the source of the virus, how could they have possibly known that?
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03-17-2020 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
first of all, where do you get that information? i googled around, and can't find any.

second of all, why is the US depend on china for the production of these things? especially china is the source of the virus?
first hand, i'm exporting them, so fed up with it and lab finally agreed to do small sales so today i'm setting up a website to sell individual kits under a "novelty only" or something disclaimer and just pray fda don't lock me up when i come home

US depends on production of nearly all medical devices and medicine in china for some time, you'll have to take it up with the shareholders who want cheaper production and government that didn't see it necesarry to keep that industry at home

but this shortage is due to a lack of fda/cdc licensing, there are so few that it's created de facto monopolies so they can limit supply and charge thousands per test. i will probably be selling mine for $20 to individuals and less than $10 a kit wholesale
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03-17-2020 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
first hand, i'm exporting them, so fed up with it and lab finally agreed to do small sales so today i'm setting up a website to sell individual kits under a "novelty only" or something disclaimer and just pray fda don't lock me up when i come home

US depends on production of nearly all medical devices and medicine in china for some time, you'll have to take it up with the shareholders who want cheaper production and government that didn't see it necesarry to keep that industry at home

but this shortage is due to a lack of fda/cdc licensing, there are so few that it's created de facto monopolies so they can limit supply and charge thousands per test. i will probably be selling mine for $20 to individuals and less than $10 a kit wholesale
Cool I'll definitely take some.
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03-17-2020 , 01:00 AM
Sweet Jesus!

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03-17-2020 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
It's true that the US should not depend on china for the production of these things and many other things but the fact is we depend on China for the production of nearly everything. As for China being the source of the virus, how could they have possibly known that?
how could they know they are the source of the virus? because that's where the virus started? I am not getting your point
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03-17-2020 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
first hand, i'm exporting them, so fed up with it and lab finally agreed to do small sales so today i'm setting up a website to sell individual kits under a "novelty only" or something disclaimer and just pray fda don't lock me up when i come home

US depends on production of nearly all medical devices and medicine in china for some time, you'll have to take it up with the shareholders who want cheaper production and government that didn't see it necesarry to keep that industry at home

but this shortage is due to a lack of fda/cdc licensing, there are so few that it's created de facto monopolies so they can limit supply and charge thousands per test. i will probably be selling mine for $20 to individuals and less than $10 a kit wholesale
wait, so when you say that the US government is not letting it, you actually meant that the US government is not letting you sell the test kits as real test kits?? LOL

btw, supposedly jack ma of alibaba has shipped millions of test kits to US... but you do you.
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03-17-2020 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
wait, so when you say that the US government is not letting it, you actually meant that the US government is not letting you sell the test kits as real test kits?? LOL

btw, supposedly jack ma of alibaba has shipped millions of test kits to US... but you do you.
no i didn't say that, what I said was:

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Originally Posted by rickroll
but this shortage is due to a lack of fda/cdc licensing, there are so few that it's created de facto monopolies so they can limit supply and charge thousands per test
there are so few labs that can legally perform a test that they aren't incentivized to meet demand by importing them

there are only so many people who can pay thousands of dollars per test (what they are charging) so they are fine with minimal production

in the state of washington they've done about 10k tests so far. at 3k per test that's 30 million dollars for the 1 or 2 labs that are authorized to do so.

if i sell 10k tests at $20 each, I'll make maybe 20k USD.

more importantly, if people learn those authorized labs charging 3k per test bought them from me for $10 each then there will be outrage and people will question why is it that we have these monopolies in the first place.

The test kits are 100% identical

if this is still unclear, there are probably some khan academy videos online that can teach you some more basics of supply and demand

but yeah, I'm the problem because I'm not a billionaire who can donate them - seriously man, gfy

next time slap your doctor in the face and ****punt the nurse because they are billing your insuance company and asking for your copay

please don't post here again
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03-17-2020 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
how could they know they are the source of the virus? because that's where the virus started? I am not getting your point
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03-17-2020 , 02:13 AM
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03-17-2020 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wwdd1980
first of all, where do you get that information? i googled around, and can't find any.

second of all, why is the US depend on china for the production of these things? especially china is the source of the virus?
Well if it's not on google then it doesn't exist. Move along nothing to see here. Especially not corporate greed coupled with political ineptitude.

As for your second point see above
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03-17-2020 , 04:02 AM
Mod note: edited at poster request.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kushner-oscar-covid/

disgusting

Last edited by Garick; 03-18-2020 at 05:10 AM.
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03-17-2020 , 04:06 AM
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there are so few labs that can legally perform a test that they aren't incentivized to meet demand by importing them

there are only so many people who can pay thousands of dollars per test (what they are charging) so they are fine with minimal production

in the state of washington they've done about 10k tests so far. at 3k per test that's 30 million dollars for the 1 or 2 labs that are authorized to do so.

if i sell 10k tests at $20 each, I'll make maybe 20k USD.

more importantly, if people learn those authorized labs charging 3k per test bought them from me for $10 each then there will be outrage and people will question why is it that we have these monopolies in the first place.

The test kits are 100% identical

if this is still unclear, there are probably some khan academy videos online that can teach you some more basics of supply and demand

but yeah, I'm the problem because I'm not a billionaire who can donate them - seriously man, gfy

next time slap your doctor in the face and ****punt the nurse because they are billing your insuance company and asking for your copay

please don't post here again
If anything good comes out of this mess it's that TPTB will balance cost vs quality in the field of medical testing.

edit: sans conspiracy theories
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