Local casino Sat. night about 1:30am always alot of action and 30 or so tables.
Hero(1400) late 30's Rec reg.,drinking, very talkative/joking with whole table,has only been at this table about an hour and a half, was moved from broken table. Have been running well in the short period of time. Viewed as TAG to LAG probably closer to LAG in this session.
V1 (450) Older white guy probably late 50's station, tries to make moves, but usually at wrong time. Very close to tilting, I felted him earlier with nut flush vs JJJ. He was very upset and keeps staring me down and wanting to play hands with me.
UTG limps
V1 in MP limps
Button limps
H raises to $20
UTG folds
V1 calls
Button calls
Flop ($67w/rake) Q,Q,Q
Hero bets $35
V1 calls
Button Folds
Turn ($137) 3
Hero checks
V1 thinks for a min. makes it $135
Hero?

Not folding. I call. Can't decide if I want to lead river or check and hope he bets again.

You have AA? Raise bigger pre and bet/bet/bet. Why are you checking turn lol

Raise more pre, like $50

AP raise, (shove). Im never folding

I'd call as well. I'd probably lead the river, probably betting V's stack, but I'm not sure if that's the right play or if he will bet again if checked too. He's only got 260 left so I'd probably just lead that on the river.

As said above, I would've kept betting as well and not checked turn. But either way, I wouldn't be folding either.

With 3 limpers I'd make $35 at least pre, especially since you have a player that's looking for blood.
On this flop I like a BBB line, don't see much sense in ever checking, if he has Q, NH sir.

If I make it $50 pre I will get zero callers, $20 will get me a few callers.
I checked here hoping he would bet.

he is probably trying to take the pot away from you after you checked the turn!

He bet pot after you checked, do you think he would try to value a queen with less than a pot sized bet

tank/call turn
jam river
stair him down as you scoop the pot

Is anyone raising here?

Bigger pre.

Bit bigger flop.

Bet turn.

As played, easy call. C/c any river against this guy I believe. Looks like a weird float (or QUADZ) more than 88.

Why the hell would we jam river if we believe his range is bluff heavy...!

Bet $45 ott and see if he does something very stupid. If he doesnt take the bait snap ship the river. Probably fps, but f it, given the dynamic this line seems fun as hell. As played call and ship river. Hope his garbage hand pairs up and he thinks you are fos.

I'm getting it in by river. Prob calling turn and jamming river. If he has a Q he's going to get my money on this flop.

Raise more pre AINEC. $30 minimum. You can probably go more if V1 is that willing to play hands with you.

AP call turn and shove river.

I kinda messed up the hand, I checked to instigate a bluff/bet and when he did, I min raised and V instafolded.
I was trying to extract as much as I could, a call on the turn would have been correct play and guess either lead or let him continue the bluff?

Check/min raising is the most nutted/fish play in the book. Just bet turn.

He is folding to your river lead anyway once you let him bluff I think the only way you get more is if you let him keep bluffing otr. I think you got as much out as you could.

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call the turn, jam the river.

he is tilting, and very emotional at this point. He will call with a lower f/u (of course he is folding everything else and never bluffing after we called the turn) and if hero checks the river to him, he isn't betting without the queen as he would be afraid we have it. A jam by hero in this spot would appear more bluffy on our part.
he is a mad tilting middle aged player who would rather try to catch you in a bluff then get pushed around as he would never want to let you get away with a bluff.

You identified the turn bet as "trying to take away the pot", which seems to imply a bluff/float. Do you think he plays 77 like this, then calls it off on the river? I think a tilting villain is more likely to foolishly bluff jam the river himself.

And our line of betting, calling a pot sized bet on the turn, and then shipping river does not appear bluffy.

when he made the pot sized bet I would almost be satisfied he doenst have a queen.

I would not check the river knowing im ahead and miss value. the jam is only 260 effective into 407 and I would rather try to get his money in then hope and pray hes gonna bet

so never check min raise a tilting player?
Do you think he calls $135 if I lead it?
Does he call a bet if I lead river?

Why not imo? If he's got a Q, he's getting our money, so whatever. If we bet again, he's likely to release whatever he floated with on the flop. Why not give him a chance to try and buy it if he is as OP described and wants to get back at us for the earlier felting.

Raise more pre at least 30

135 is a huge bet. He almost never has quads here if he bets that much.

call turn.

shove river. or check shove river. all depends on if you think V will fire again.

If he has a pair, yes, and a lot of the time yes.