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12-25-2015 , 07:54 PM
1/2 live. H has grinded up to 400 from 200 over several hours. Image doesnt matter, no one cares.

V covers. Fish donk on a heater. Has sucked out on almost the whole table. Almost never ahead when money goes in, calls any bet with almost any pair. Thinks in absolute dollars, doesnt really consider folding until the bet gets north of 60 or 70$. Vpip pfr around 99/50 with most opening raises being to 5$. H has been 3betting these opens all night and squeezed some juice out but V is running hot (has high FE) and routinely bets 1.5 or 2x pot, shows rags when all fold, does it the next hand, gets called, shows mortal nuts...etc.

H assigns limp = limp calling range = almost ATC save 82o, 29o type hands.

Opening range = top 50%, AXs, BWs, SCs, S1Gs, PPs 22-AA, some OSCs, KXs.

Almost always opens to 5 or 10 regardless of it being AA or J9s, opens stronger hands for 10.

OTTH:

Bunch of limps to H OTB, V limps from CO, H makes it 15 with AJo all fold except V who calls.

Flop (30ish) A T 4 r

V checks H bets 25. I go a bit steep as I know this guy calls with any pair, and PP, any BD draw. V calls.

Turn (80) A T 4 T r

V checks, H bets 60, V calls. Thought was here I would find out if he has Tx that called flop as I know 60 is right around his cutoff for committing to the hand. Calling tells me hes committed that he has a good hand but doesnt have a T, likely an A or some PP. I feel as though Im well ahead here with this V who calls super loose.

River (200) A T 4 T 2 two hearts

V bets 100, Hero?
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12-25-2015 , 08:04 PM
Check the turn. V has a ton of Tx in his range. Probably fold River.
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12-25-2015 , 08:28 PM
Ill include an example HH for V.

few limps to V in LP who makes it 5, H 3! to 30 with 77, one limper calls, V calls. Flop comes K 9 9 r. limper checks, V donks 5, H calls, L calls. Turn 4 two clubs. L bets like 100, V calls, H folds. River 4. L bets 100 again, V puts L in, L calls shows 9x for 9s full, V shows KK.

Top of his range here, he'd play JTo the same way.

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12-25-2015 , 09:09 PM
Checking turn would be bad against this V, but I'd probably make it smaller. He has more Ax on the turn than he does Tx, and when you throw on all the random gutters and other pairs it makes it a must bet spot.

Call river. He has a ton of Tx, sure, but he'll be bluffing or demibluffing often enough that we have to call the half pot river bet.
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12-25-2015 , 09:13 PM
I don't know this particular V, but I'm leaning towards a call. It seems like V slow plays and overplays his monsters, and this seems more like thinner value. It initially seemed like a fold to me, but given your history and reads I think it's a sigh call.
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12-25-2015 , 11:21 PM
Call River imo. V would likely lead or check raise turn with Tx on turn with his image thinking he would get value from Ax. Looks like some kind of hand turned into a semi bluff Ax

Last edited by patjps; 12-25-2015 at 11:35 PM.
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12-25-2015 , 11:30 PM
Call. Hero bet 5/6 pot on flop, then 3/4 pot on turn. His 1/2 pot river looks like a blocker with Ax to avoid have to call your $125-175.
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12-25-2015 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Ill include an example HH for V.

few limps to V in LP who makes it 5, H 3! to 30 with 77, one limper calls, V calls. Flop comes K 9 9 r. limper checks, V donks 5, H calls, L calls. Turn 4 two clubs. L bets like 100, V calls, H folds. River 4. L bets 100 again, V puts L in, L calls shows 9x for 9s full, V shows KK.

Top of his range here, he'd play JTo the same way.

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Based on this hand is looks like villain likes to trap when he thinks he is way ahead. Seems like he either has the 10x and tried to trap u on the turn or else he is bluffing, which could also be possible if he truly plays JTo the same way as KK in your example.
It doesn't make sense for him to lead the river for value with any hands you can beat, so he must be betting for value with a hand that has you beat or else he is bluffing big to try to move you off an A. If he is bluffing it seems like his range would be weighted towards air., or maybe turning A rag into a bluff.
However, as described, I feel like this guy is more of a fish on a heater than an maniac. Villain doesn't sound competent enough to decide to turn Ax into a bluff or to float on the river, I dunno maybe I'm underestimating him..?

As played river Is a fold imho. Be careful with old AJ cuz it looks pretty but tends to get you into tricky spots like this

Last edited by Mr. Muckit; 12-25-2015 at 11:52 PM.
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12-25-2015 , 11:47 PM
Given Vs profile and history at the table, this is a call I think. His range probably has about as many Arags as it has Ts, so at the very worst, its ev neutral. And i agree with KKingDavid about the river sizing.
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12-26-2015 , 09:20 PM
H sigh calls. V shows AQo. Limped AQ, never wouldve guessed.

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12-26-2015 , 11:46 PM
I would raise more preflop based on what you told us about this idiot Ashe probably will call.

I like your flop and turn bet sizes.

NEVER folding river here! Just debating whether I should raise him.

These kind of Villans will often bet river oop to buy the pot.
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12-26-2015 , 11:49 PM
Just saw Result. If your read on Villan is accurate I think you will get your chips back.

I may raise more preflop with top hands (AJo not being one of them) as this Villan will call ATC
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12-27-2015 , 11:38 AM
Good call. It sounds like every combo of Ax is in his range, sorry you ran into one of the few that you lose to. These V's lead to volatile sessions but awesome long term profits.
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12-27-2015 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Check the turn. V has a ton of Tx in his range. Probably fold River.
MUBS much? What constitutes a "ton" of Tx? What % of V's overall range contains a T? H says guy is VPIP in the 90s. There's a whole lot of "not Tx" in his range too.
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12-27-2015 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandTheftOtto
MUBS much? What constitutes a "ton" of Tx? What % of V's overall range contains a T? H says guy is VPIP in the 90s. There's a whole lot of "not Tx" in his range too.
Well he called the flop so he should have pairs and gutterballs, which includes plenty of Tx if he's playing offsuit Tx combos. Are we getting 3 streets with AJ here? If V c/shove turn with Ax then we have to consider a fold. Rather just check turn and bet River since there's almost no bad River cards and should only be getting two streets on this board from a worse hand most of the time. Highly doubt V c/shove River with Ax but he could do it on the turn.
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