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Old 02-21-2019, 06:09 PM   #1
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Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

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few limps in front of me , I look at Ah3h in LP and decide to overlimp here, could raise this hand in LP? I decided to just overlimp bc i feel that i won't isolate very often with a raise so I wan't my raising range to be pretty strong here

V1- OG in MP.. seems pretty passive .. bet sizings are very small.. hasn't really gotten out of line so far

V2- OG OTB .. passive player.. hasn't gotten out line

I cover both V's here

4 way to F: J72 (hhx); (8); x'd to V1 who bets 7, I call , V2 calls

T:2os, (29); x'd around, i decide to take the free card, shouldn't have much FE here

R:Th, (29); V1 leads for 25; I raise to 85; V2 tank calls ( he had 17 behind after calling) so he def. doesn't have a boat, very likely he has a inferior Flush

this is where it gets interesting... V1 then jams for 81 more... Hero?

V2 certainly has a flush , and I have the Nut flush , so I feel like this guy would just call with a K-high/Q-high flush given the action

If i have a flush , and V2 has a flush, it is pretty unlikely that V1 has a flush as well and if he does, hard to see him jamming anything but the Nut flush which he obviously can't have

getting 3.5 to 1 on a call... need to be good 22% of the time to BE... can I find a fold here given the price and the action in front of me ?

thanks for any feedback
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #2
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

This is the problem with limping. Anyone could have anything, it's hard to get value with a strong made hand, and if you do hit a flush, it's difficult to get paid off. Just raise here, get a couple folds, and then be the aggressor on the flop.

You can't fold here. a fh means someone played 72, T2, J2. If so, shrug and get more chips. More likely one has a flush and the other has trips. I'm guessing the guy who called with 17 pennies behind. People often overplay flushes because they think no way anyone else has one and they want to get paid.

Just stick it in.
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:27 AM   #3
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

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This is the problem with limping. Anyone could have anything, it's hard to get value with a strong made hand, and if you do hit a flush, it's difficult to get paid off. Just raise here, get a couple folds, and then be the aggressor on the flop.

You can't fold here. a fh means someone played 72, T2, J2. If so, shrug and get more chips. More likely one has a flush and the other has trips. I'm guessing the guy who called with 17 pennies behind. People often overplay flushes because they think no way anyone else has one and they want to get paid.

Just stick it in.
Do you generally always lean towards raising your suited AX in LP? I feel like it can go either way bc they play well multi-way

It is difficult playing against limping ranges post
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:58 AM   #4
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

Limping and raising are both fine here, I lean more towards limping after this many limpers. I would certainly just raise vs one limper.

This is an annoying spot. I feel like he has 22 a lot, but that's one combo. Could have 77. TT he probably raises pre? Could he have J2s or 72s?

I guess I'm calling, there are so few combos which beat you and it's conceivable he just has a K high flush here. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that a K high flush should not shove here but some of these guys are full on Level 0 and just play their own hand strength without reference to anything else.
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:18 AM   #5
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

just sigh calling here, we beat some worse value shoves and price is too good
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:08 AM   #6
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

Weird action for sure , v1 is repping precisely 77, 22 pretty small percentage of total hands he can have, but his value line would be these hands likely , as I tend to agree v1 should just call with king high flush, for the amount of money he raises and your stack depth I probably just find the call ,,,, would depend on your read of this opponent , what kinda hands he's showdown with and what kinda hands has he taken similar lines with ,,, if we were more deeper and have no reads I can find a fold against v1's line , asplayed probably just call it off and shown house

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Old 02-22-2019, 11:23 AM   #7
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

thanks for the feedback

Results: I tank … squirm.. look to the guy on my left and say , " I think we're both ****ed man " lol

end up calling... the guy on my left at Kh6h... other dude had 72os...
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:24 AM   #8
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

I just don't feel good putting money in on the river knowing that I'm beat.. it felt fairly obvious that this guy isn't that dumb to over play his hand

however on the flip side if one V has Q h flush and the other guy had a K high flush , and I ended up folding … then I would most likely go on monkey tilt ..
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:44 AM   #9
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Re: Rivering the Nut Flush on paired board, 1/2 NL

It's a sigh call.

Edit: Oops, had thread up and didn't see results. Good.
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