I’m mostly interested on what you guys think of my flop and turn play, as well as an opinion on the Villains line.

1/1 ~500bb effective
Villain is 20-30yr old asian reg, mostly a good player but for whatever reason is about 5 beers deep. Still playing mostly fine. Has clashed with Hero in a few medium sized pots, all of which Hero was behind but got there on turn or river.

OTTH

8 handed, folds to Hero in CO with J8o and opens to 7. I know this is usually a fold but Hero had been card-dead for a couple of hours now and the BB was an extremely weak player. V on BTN calls.

($16) 865r

H bets $10, V raises $30, H calls.

($76) 865 (8d) bringing a FD

X, V bets $40, H calls

($156) 8658 (Jd)

X, V bets $175, H shoves and V calls wit 63dd.

What do we think of Hero’s line on flop and turn, and can Villain ever get away on river??

I don’t even know. Everyone played this hand very poorly. So he bluff raises you otf with second pair and you call. What’s your plan at this point you have top pair with a mediocre kicker on a coordinated board facing aggression. What do you do when you don’t improve?
Turn sizing is kinda small from him but whatever. Again what’s your plan here? What range do you put Villain on? If we think we’re ahead we should never just be calling the turn this deep.
Obviously villain is completely spewing otr. I mean I guess he’s ahead of like A8? Not much else.

Probably just fold turn when I don’t improve. Are you suggesting I should fold flop to his raise? Also I’m not really sure why I would raise the turn? I mainly put him on an airball or the nuts here. Raising is bad against both of those..

Well I guess my post was to highlight that you don’t really have a plan or have your opponent on a range of hands. From someone that is a solid player and seems fine after a few beers yeah, I don’t think our top pair medium kicker is any good. Judging by the result it looks like your read was off, but we don’t know that until after.
Ott airball or the nuts? Why? We don’t think he ever does this with worse 8s and combo draws like 78 67 or turned flush draws? The point is to get value from when they whiff and you build the pot for when you hit a monster. But yes if he has only air or nuts it’s bad.

I definitely did have a plan. On the flop, when he raises me, I put him on a polarized range of airballs and nutted hands like sets and straights. I do also think he has some hands like 87 or 76, but not enough to warrant a 3-bet. On the turn, his range stays mostly the same, so again I just call. I don’t really know why I would raise anywhere but the river in this hand.

So V backdoored a flush while H backdoored a boat?

Just fold this preflop. Being card dead isn't a good reason to start opening your ranges. I understand that BB is weak and you think your image is nitty enough to have your opponents overfold to you preflop, but J8o just isn't close to good enough.

I think postflop is fine. I don't think raising the turn is a good idea for the reasons you mentioned.

Yep

No, Villain is never getting away on the river, though this looks like a reverse hand history and H is actually V?!?!?!?

Haha, promise it isn’t. Was just curious about his line.

The PF raise with J8o from the CO is terrible, its way too weak a hand.

Its debatable if it would be okay from the BTN, because from there, you know that you will have position for sure. It depends on what you mean by the BB being "weak". If you meant weak-tight, and the sb is too, then you could raise from the BTN as a steal. But if either of them like calling with too many hands PF, then this is a fold, even from the BTN.

AP I think the flop lead is bad. You're essentially turning your hand into a bluff, because what calls here that you actually beat? Only some straight draws, but even most of those will have good equity against you... and you will be out of position, which means your competent opponent can put you in all sorts of tough spots.

I would prefer x-call on the flop, in order to keep the pot small.

On the turn you got one of the few really good cards for your hand. The second 8 makes it less likely that you have top pair, and the diamond draw gives your opponent more incentive to continue the bluff. That said, check-call was the right play on this street.

On the river you got the single best card in the deck for your hand. You fill up, and he makes his runner runner flush.
It was a mistake not to bet here, as it is too likely that he checks behind with a lot of his range. If it wasn't for the fact that he hit the flush, he would not have bet.

Obviously once he does bet, you have to raise. His call of the shove is pretty bad, because at that point what does he beat, that's not a bluff? And how could you doing that as a bluff?

I'd feel sorry for this guy, but he did call a raise with 6d3d.

i'm actually fine with J8o in the CO as an open so long as BTN/SB/BB are generally weak-tight players. not sure from the given read about BTN that is the case though.

so what do you think his airballs are on a board of 865r are?

unless you know he's the special type of V who is going to c/r 43/42 here, he's going to almost assuredly have overs at worst. defending here is going to be insanely difficult. so if he has airballs/sets/straights, you're basically drawing dead against sets/straights and his airballs have a ton of equity and you're OOP.

even if he has 87o or 76o, you're barely ahead (55/45). if he has the suited 87/76 in that range he has more equity (54/46)

given the tendencies of low limit players, i wouldn't expect this to be a pure airball unless V is an idiot, but that is not the read, so it's probably a fold.

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given Vs hand at showdown, i think you should reassess what your reads on V are.

You make a really good point that almost all of V’s range here has a significant amount of equity, whether it be gutshots, open-enders or pair + draw hands, without even mentioning his nutted hands. Usually, I do not open J8o, so I do not usually find myself in such a situation. Obviously a Gin runout but you’ve made me realize that I need to analyse this hand a bit deeper. Cheers for the analysis.

Fold pre, check flop, call is fine as I think people's raises can be pretty wide on the flop. The rest is fine.