2/5 ~700 stacks

-UTG limps and HJ makes it 25 (HJ is a good, TAG regular)
-Hero calls on the B with 75
-UTG calls (Rec player I have no history with)

Flop (82) - J86
-Checks to Hero
-Hero bets 40 and only UTG calls

Turn (162) - 3
-Villain leads for 85
-Hero calls

River (332) - 4
-Villain bets 175
-Hero?

Do you jam, raise small or just call?

Cheers

I would size up on the flop to $60. I'm jamming this river for sure.

I'd call. When opponent x/c flop then leads 1/2 PSB on turn, I tend to think he is trying to set a price for a draw rather than value betting.

I'd fold pre. Low suited gapper vs. a solid opponent, less likely to get paid as well as potential reverse implied odds.

More flop raise turn shove river

Don’t love flatting one-gappers pre but it’s my favourite hand and your IP so I’m probably calling. As played, call river. If a limp caller starts firing barrels OTT and river I’m giving him credit and higher flushes are a big part of his range. Suited Ax, broadways, T9s, 98s.

For sure more flop, and i'd shove river

OTT if we raise are we then shoving all rivers if we brick amana?

Do we really believe that an unknown l/c 32s pf and donk bet the turn on a draw? Because that's the only hand that he can have that we beat that could possibly call a raise on the river. Obvious FD coming in is obvious.

Jam might make sense if we are looking to get a better flush to fold. But we don't know anything about the villain. Most LLSNL players aren't folding a flush on the river..

Therefore a call is the right decision.

+1. I could potentially see myself flatting river vs some villains but in general I think we just have the best hand here very often.

Here yes nearly always bc his line really just looks like a bluffcatch- range and we are polarizing nicely (albeit w lots of perceived draws available). What’s important in general is to be aware of the ranges and decide whether you want to exhaust FE on the turn or prefer to do so over turn+riv. If you make a massive turn raise and he continues, then we may have exhausted out FE on the turn and be forced to give up. If you choose a smaller size (perhaps a good idea when you have more strong hands), then you have 2 more realistic chances at getting him to fold - a ‘valuey’ turn raise and then a pot-sized raise on the river.

I’m not a theory type, but the main idea is that we’d like to get to the river nicely polarized against only bluffcatchers so that any action he makes equals 0 dollars (and we make the size of the pot w our bet). If you hammer turns, get called and then don’t have much left (assuming we’re not deep) for river bets, then his continuing range is too strong and we have a less/non profitable situation for bluffs (and even our value). Tldr sizing is everything.

+1 to more on flop, but shoving river seems like a spew since we have the second lowest flush possible on that board (and I doubt someone is limp/calling 32).

Do we really think sets are calling a shove? We hold 75 so that limits other straights too, some of which might call some maybe not. I just think there are so many more flush combos that snap us off than other value hands that call that we beat.

So I just called. The way he bet out with no hesitation when the flush comes in on the river just seemed so strong. Couldn't think of too many worse hands that call but @Amanaplan I agree shoving is probably still best.

He showed JJ somehow.

Pre is too loose imo.

Make it more on flop.

Vs like is pretty wacky and I don't think he's got many strong hands. Turn raise doesn't represent many strong hands, just 88/66. Do we play J8, J6, 86? I guess so because we flatted 75. If we are going to semi bluff and make a big pot I want more nutted hands such as the NFD.

River shove is too thin, just call.

Nah, gotta punish his overall line otr especially if you're just flatting turn with your flop betting range (when he donks turn). He gets put in a spot and his line tells me that he for sure has hands other than NF that can bet-call or at least puke bet-fold which is great for our whole range. To me, his line just screams 'fish' so I'm jamming.

Call river.

Flat call the river. What hand are you beating that calls a river shove?

UTG is a rec player, I can easily see him calling off with sets and 2p, and his line wouldn't surprise me at all