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Originally Posted by Ragequit99
But if you bet every hand that has no showdown value then you're going to the turn with too much air when you bet flop whether you're IP or OOP. This is fine if you have lots of FE because no-one in the hand is paying attention to your frequencies. However, as soon as anyone live in the hand is paying attention and figures out what you're doing two things are going to happen:
1) you'll quickly lose your FE the wider you bet
2) you'll open yourself up to a wider rebluffing range
You'll get called down light and get X/raised by air/low-equity-semibluffs and lose money both ways.
How many no showdown value hands do we have here? Something like JTs, QJs, QTs, KTs, KJ, KQ, or just suited broadways. The diamond combos can certainly stand a raise. So it's something like 3+3+3+3+15+15. This amount of bluffs can easily be balanced by the number of sets, overpairs, etc that are for value. I don't think we have too much weakness going to the turn if our strategy involves checking back a lot of pockets and A high.
I agree if V's are c/r happy we can't cbet flop with air as much. Also it is totally fine to be c/r off a hand with no sd value and not a good draw. We run into trouble when we have showdown value and get bluffed off the best hand.
So to answer your points
1) Im advocating betting polarized and we don't have an unreasonable amount of air combos relative to our value combos.
2) It's fine to get bluffed off two broadways no draw, our hand sucks.
For getting called down light, it totally depends on the runout. I didn't care for barreling OPs turn card but other ones could have worked out better. We do have equity with our two overs also and can count on getting lucky some % of the time.