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08-08-2018 , 07:58 PM
Live 2/5. My stacks ~800

I posted my blind in the CO this hand.. coming back from dinner break.

-2 limpers to Hero, Hero checks in the CO with 97
-Button makes it 25 (2k stack..Seems like a decent tight aggressive player but I haven't played with him before)
-BB and both limpers call, Hero completes for 25 as well

Flop[127]: 976
-Checks to Hero who bets 75
-Only B calls (mostly putting him on an overpair, pair or pair+straight draw, less likely but also possible is 2 pair or a gutter like J10)

Turn[277]: A
-Hero bets 140
-Villain calls

River[557]: K
-Hero shoves (SPR is approx 1. I beat hands like 76 or A8 but I also feel like I only get called with better here for the most part. It's kind of an awkward spot because I don't think I can bet fold or check fold on this board with what I have behind.)

Any insights? Cheers!
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08-08-2018 , 08:20 PM
Prefer to just open raise preflop, there’s enough dead chips to justify a raise right there, especially with u posting.
As played I like the call pre.
On the flop I actually like the lead, I don’t expect v to cbet much multi way on this board.
On the turn I like to either bet larger or to check/raise. The small bet is kinda awkward because u don’t expect to get many folds. On the river I like a check/call. I don’t expect to get hero called by pair+missed draw or even QQ really. So mine as well let him bluff a JT


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08-08-2018 , 08:26 PM
Think I like a raise to attack the 2 limpers IP. After a decent TAG BTN 3bets, he can be pretty wide and I like a 3! rather than flatting with so much dead money.

AP, flop and turn, think its fine as V can call with many worse hands and draws. Don't know if a shove makes too much sense OTR, since that sizing pretty much shuts down any worse hands that would call. I would bet like 175 OTR to get calls from worse, perhaps check-call to induce if hes bluffy.
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08-08-2018 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
Prefer to just open raise preflop
FYP

OK with either checking or raising pre.

River I think you want to be check folding. Think it through. It's basically impossible that V has a hand which needs to bluff. If he has something like JJ he will check and hope to win. It's also not possible that he has a one pair aces hand. If he had something like AQ he would have folded the flop. If he bets it's almost always because he had AA or KK and setted up. If you think I'm wrong, suggest a hand which goes raise pre/call/call/bet on this board which you beat. There are a very few things like JTdd but I don't think it's enough combos and many players will not raise that hand OTB there.
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08-08-2018 , 11:04 PM
I think river is closer to check call rather than check fold. It's definitely not a shove, since we only get called by hands that beat us

We want him to bet any A high hands he might have floated or let him bluff whatever he might have called with pre. 88, TT, JT?
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08-08-2018 , 11:25 PM
Hadn't thought about 88, that's possible.
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08-09-2018 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HomelessPizza
Think I like a raise to attack the 2 limpers IP. After a decent TAG BTN 3bets, he can be pretty wide and I like a 3! rather than flatting with so much dead money.

AP, flop and turn, think its fine as V can call with many worse hands and draws. Don't know if a shove makes too much sense OTR, since that sizing pretty much shuts down any worse hands that would call. I would bet like 175 OTR to get calls from worse, perhaps check-call to induce if hes bluffy.
I don't think limping CO and then 3betting a tag who has position is a good play, but i like everything else you said. I'd also be betting around 175 here targeting AT, JJ, TT, T9, KTdd, A5s, A8s. Maybe 88 calls just to see. I really don't think this guys going to re raise you as a bluff on the river after we triple barrel so go for thin value.
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08-09-2018 , 04:21 PM
Thanks guys. I think I like a check/call or small value bet (160-180) on the river in hindsight and after reading the responses.

P.S.

Villain folded on the river so it worked out here but I'm trying to not be results oriented and identify lines I could improve, regardless of if I won the pot or not.

GL guys!
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08-09-2018 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sandhu31
Thanks guys. I think I like a check/call or small value bet (160-180) on the river in hindsight and after reading the responses.

P.S.

Villain folded on the river so it worked out here but I'm trying to not be results oriented and identify lines I could improve, regardless of if I won the pot or not.

GL guys!
By the river, your line has been so strong that you're only getting called by better. X/c and x/f are the only viable river options, and with this SPR I think it's very close. Your table image might be the deciding factor, which we don't have.
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