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08-11-2015 , 03:04 PM
Spoiler alert!!!!


After his long tank call V turns over QJ for the full house announcing in his best Jennifer Tilly inpression that he had me on pocket queens. Baluga Theorem holds true again I suppose.

While deciding whether to "value" raise the the river, I heavily relied on the fact that I had a blocker to a lot of full houses in V's range which was what made this hand interesting enough to post.

All help was greatly appreciated on the hand.
08-11-2015 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
While deciding whether to "value" raise the the river, I heavily relied on the fact that I had a blocker to a lot of full houses in V's range which was what made this hand interesting enough to post.
you really dont block "a lot" of combos. you only block 6 combos of the 22 likely combos (I dont count J3 as a likely combo, though if i did, you only block 10 of 28 combos)

considering he doesnt raise the river with the 2nd nuts, i really wouldnt put it past him to call the flop c/r with QQ, 77 or 33

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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
After his long tank call V turns over QJ for the full house announcing in his best Jennifer Tilly inpression that he had me on pocket queens. Baluga Theorem holds true again I suppose
idk what is worse, your play throughout this hand or his river call.
08-11-2015 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SpexDome
ESPN Huh?

I was wondering how this guy was gonna make 6500 a week from home.

Mystery solved.
dickwiggle = Bill Simmons!!!!
08-11-2015 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
you really dont block "a lot" of combos. you only block 6 combos of the 22 likely combos (I dont count J3 as a likely combo, though if i did, you only block 10 of 28 combos)

considering he doesnt raise the river with the 2nd nuts, i really wouldnt put it past him to call the flop c/r with QQ, 77 or 33



idk what is worse, your play throughout this hand or his river call.
How do you play the river then chief? Min-raise fold?
08-11-2015 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
How do you play the river then chief? Min-raise fold?
i already told you...

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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
river is a call. if it's a blocking bet, he probably doesnt call with worse. it could also be a weak value bet to induce a raise
and it wasnt just the river, you played every street wrong IMO.
08-11-2015 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
How do you play the river then chief? Min-raise fold?
If you're going to raise the river, it's gotta be for a shove. Any hand that's calling $85 more is going to call the rest off. You're losing value by not shoving. That said, there ain't much that we beat that is calling.

Fold pre (assuming you're in the BB.). Sorry bruh, mistakes begat mistakes.

Flop, I'm just leading out to get value from worse diamonds.

Turn's okay size-wise.

River donk is confusing as hell, so what do we beat here that can call if we raise/shove? I don't think we can get worse diamonds to call at this point so I flat the river.

But the moral? Fold pre.
08-13-2015 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
If you're going to raise the river, it's gotta be for a shove. Any hand that's calling $85 more is going to call the rest off. You're losing value by not shoving. That said, there ain't much that we beat that is calling.

Fold pre (assuming you're in the BB.). Sorry bruh, mistakes begat mistakes.

Flop, I'm just leading out to get value from worse diamonds.

Turn's okay size-wise.

River donk is confusing as hell, so what do we beat here that can call if we raise/shove? I don't think we can get worse diamonds to call at this point so I flat the river.

But the moral? Fold pre.

Thank you for your comment.


If there was no straddle and fold pre wasn't an option, I still feel like knowing how to play this hand on this run out is important in improving my game for the higher stakes I'll be playing at soon. I learned a $200 lesson I do need to place more emphasis on position when trying to get into pots with people I percieve as worse players.

The only positive I see from this hand is I repped the nuts to the Villain and almost made him fold the second nuts. Saved 60-70 bux!
08-13-2015 , 01:34 PM
You have no business playing higher stakes. Can you drop down from 1/2? Is that possible?

This entire thread is a nightmare.
08-13-2015 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
You have no business playing higher stakes. Can you drop down from 1/2? Is that possible?

This entire thread is a nightmare.
Says you. Why would I play gamble/poker for an amount that is inconsequential to my liferoll? I think of money in terms of time and vice versa. If I am making $5-10,000 a week from various ventures working 30-50 hours, do you really think a $200 or $500 buy-in going up in smoke is going to cause me to play my A game and get a gambling buzz? Heck no man. I have to play with a day's salary just to feel something man.


They have .50/1 and 1/1 in vegas at a few places. The internets has $ .01/.02 nlhe. With as many posts as you have I would assume you knew that.
08-13-2015 , 03:30 PM
If you're just playing for fun and to gamble then play whatever stakes you want. I don't see why you're posting here if that's the case though. Judging from this HH you don't have the fundamentals to beat any level of poker currently. It makes me question your motives.
08-13-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
Says you. Why would I play gamble/poker for an amount that is inconsequential to my liferoll?
to learn how to get better. obv if you're rolled for 5-10 you could go play that rather than 1-2, but fundamentals of the game can be learned for cheaper at the lower stakes.


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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
I think of money in terms of time and vice versa. If I am making $5-10,000 a week from various ventures working 30-50 hours, do you really think a $200 or $500 buy-in going up in smoke is going to cause me to play my A game and get a gambling buzz? Heck no man. I have to play with a day's salary just to feel something man.
most would suggest that instead of looking at the value of the money in play you look at it from a BB perspective. this eliminates the thought that 'oh it's only 10 bucks, i shove with 74o', but if 10 bucks is a 100bb, then its the same as thinking about shoving for 1,000 at a 5-10 game.

honestly, when i got back into online poker last year, i started a 2nl. $2 is nothing to me. my bathroom break at work is literally paying me more than $2, but i still got upset when i played poorly. you may have to train yourself to think about poker differently at the beginning but eventually i'm sure you could think about it solely by BB. but i understand thats not for everyone, so YMMV.
08-13-2015 , 03:46 PM
If you are playing here with J6s I assume you are playing here with all better hands?
How many hands are you call with in this spot?

What hands exactly do you think do NOT flop well in this situation?
What is a 'good' flop for you?
How often will you hit a 'good' flop?
08-13-2015 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dickwiggle
Why would I play gamble/poker for an amount that is inconsequential to my liferoll? I think of money in terms of time and vice versa. If I am making $5-10,000 a week from various ventures working 30-50 hours, do you really think a $200 or $500 buy-in going up in smoke is going to cause me to play my A game and get a gambling buzz? Heck no man. I have to play with a day's salary just to feel something man.
If this is really how you feel, and how you play then you are what we at the table like to call a whale.
Have you ever seen those people on High Stakes poker who play for stupid sums of money but are clearly terrible?
They are pretty much the same thing but with a few more zeros onto their bets.

I wish you the best of luck, but really you just seem like you are trying to be gods gift to poker thinking you can play just about any two cards at any time. Do you even know *why* (in theroy) you should want to get into a pot with a fish? Because you make better decisions for than them on a consistent basis. If you don't know how to make a better decision, you are just playing bingo. You're going to lose at bingo in the long run.
08-13-2015 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
If this is really how you feel, and how you play then you are what we at the table like to call a whale.
Have you ever seen those people on High Stakes poker who play for stupid sums of money but are clearly terrible?
They are pretty much the same thing but with a few more zeros onto their bets.

I wish you the best of luck, but really you just seem like you are trying to be gods gift to poker thinking you can play just about any two cards at any time. Do you even know *why* (in theroy) you should want to get into a pot with a fish? Because you make better decisions for than them on a consistent basis. If you don't know how to make a better decision, you are just playing bingo. You're going to lose at bingo in the long run.
I don't watch pokers on TV, I've heard of the show but I'd rather keep up with the Kardashians. That said I'll cheque it out next time I see it in my local listings so that I know what you be talking bout.

I don't think I'm saying anything odd when I say I don't play as well (read GTO or according to Super System II) when I'm playing for stakes that don't matter to me. For instance, my neighbors play a $10 sng every Sunday that I attend once or twice a month to be social. I play that game a lot differently than I would a $520 deep stack tournament at my local card room. I don't think I'm queer in my thinking or reaction to the differing stakes.

Fundamental theorem of poker in action is why I want to play J-6 sooted against 2-3 fishies in a pot when all are above 100BB deep. I think I can play my hand in such a way to maximize edges I have on dumber players.
08-13-2015 , 11:43 PM
This entire thread is a troll, lock it up!
08-17-2015 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
This entire thread is a troll, lock it up!
FYP!
08-17-2015 , 01:16 PM
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