Hero (300)(Button)(AA)
Villain 1 (150)(UTG+1)

Villain only limper, hero bets 15, Villain is the only caller

(34)
1085
Villain donks 15, hero calls

(64)
7
Villain bets 30, hero calls

(124)
5
Villain all in for his remaining $100, hero?


Villain is a hispanic gentlemen in his 20's. I had not seen him before this session and at the time we had only played about 5 hands together, so I really had little history on him. He had not done anything out of order in those 5 hands.

This is $1/$3 NLHE by the way.

I am folding the river pretty easily, maybe even folding on the turn if mye reads on the guy is accurate enough to warrant it.

This is all value, and we beat pretty much no valuehand at this point.

I'm assuming 1/3 NL?

I'm cool with our preflop sizing as it gets in 10% of stacks against the limper where we can now comfortably commit postflop on all but the worse boards / etc. I might go a smidge more just cuz I'm more conservative that way (no more than $20) but whatever.

SPR is 4 and we have an overpair but also with the nut flush draw. Even though it's an all flush board there's no straight and we have the nut flush out, so we're committed for stacks. I guess the question is do we necessarily want to play for them UI with our showdownable hand. I could go either way and it might be opponent dependent. We don't really fear any draws (if we're ahead he is drawing incredibly slim), so we're kinda cool just letting him barrel off with us in position ensuring a bet will always go in. But if he'd stack off with worse / put more in with worse (especially before the flush draw kills things) then we're better off playing for stacks now.

One of the things I find is that if I start slowplaying here when committed is that by the river I can usually see a zillion better hands and I sometimes don't maximize my value. So with that in mind I might just raise the flop and try to get it in ASAP. Note that of course this is only at this committed SPR. If we were sitting at a larger SPR this is an easy call down / evaluate river if he's still putting in large bets that put large stacks behind threateningly in play.

As played, I'm snap calling the river (I was committed the whole way even UI due to preflop). The river card is actually a decent one as it moved us ahead of wonky two pairs. Plus he could easily be bluffing with the Kd / etc. against our passive play.

ETA: Gil, we beat a bunch of value hands. KK-JJ, Tx, T8, 87, etc. Plus a bunch of busted bluff hands. Folding at any point versus an unknown having committed ourselves preflop with a Button raise and playing very passively postflop is meh, imo. And considering folding the turn getting 3:1 with the nut overpair and nut flush draw?!?!

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I am probably raising this flop for value with Over pair + nut flush draw; don't see him leading into you and folding very often;


AP im not folding the river for that price; a lot of potential missed draws, the river is a pretty good card for your hand; he could also be value betting some hands that you beat; like TX, maybe JJ? idk its a tough spot for sure but I think if we raise flop then we can get the money in on the turn pretty easily

Um.....no?

Even if you thought you were beat, you should still call turn at this price, as a low stakes limp caller is most likely going to pay you off on the river if you hit. Degens didn't come to the casino to fold 2 pair +

OP, GII on the flop and stack his Tx and worse flush draws.

this is a very terrible post. provable that even gobbledy isnt folding in this hand.

Snap calling.

I just think most of LLSNL villains at this point in time have value when they donk 3 times into the preflopraiser on a board like this. When he jams the river after getting called two streets i think we are good are very small percentage of the time, absent maniac reads on the villain.

No: we dont beat a bunch of value hands in my opinion. JJ-KK is likely slowing down and very likely not jamming the river (plus discounted amount of combos due the limp/call and no 3 bet pre), same thing with Tx. By value in this spot i am thinking about relative hand strength, so i range villain on mostly 2 pairs, sets and flushes at the river when he is firing the third barrell.

If villain had tx, pair with a flushdraw, straightdraw or other hands we beat most of the player population is going for check-call lines with those hands: they dont blast 3 streets into an uncapped preflopraiser.

Folding turn would maybe be too nitty, but the river is an easy fold in my opinion against 90 percent of 1/3 players.

Easiest GII otf. Expect to win versus AT.

Easy calldown. I'm never folding this when stacks are so shallow, we block so many flushes and we beat some value hands like Tx.

If we think V has 2-pair on the river, we should be snap calling. We *beat* two-pair.

We should've raised earlier when we are even still likely ahead and, if behind, have numerous outs.

Pretty sure this is a bad beat story but I'm calling this one down and feeling decent about it.