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08-25-2012 , 08:27 PM
Hey guys, what's your top 10 books for No Limit Holdem? For either Cash games or tournaments or both. But only No Limit cash games or No limit Tournaments, no other games please!
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08-26-2012 , 12:52 AM
there are none. doubt even the ebooks of 2009 are upto scratch for todays online games.

experience>almost anything else, there is no 1 size fits all magic formula.

edit: failing that some guy called internet makes videos, they are OK i guess.

Last edited by nikinblinds; 08-26-2012 at 12:53 AM. Reason: forgot the sharkiest of sharks
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08-26-2012 , 02:47 AM
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there are none. doubt even the ebooks of 2009 are upto scratch for todays online games.

experience>almost anything else, there is no 1 size fits all magic formula.

edit: failing that some guy called internet makes videos, they are OK i guess.
I don't play online. I disagree with your statement. I have read 10 poker books on Holdem or No limit Holdem. I learned something from each of them. Some books I learned very little others I learned a huge deal. As long as I get 1 good page that's useful to my game, I will buy that book!
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08-26-2012 , 05:43 AM
Where are Internet's videos?
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08-28-2012 , 12:03 AM
WOW? Poker players saying that Harrington on Cash Games Vol 1 & 2 is not a good book! You are all on Crack! I am a greedy son of a bitch who doesn't like helping anyone especially poker players but if you play a tight style and don't buy this book, then your on Crack!

The best thing about this book is how its format is. It's the best formatted and easy to understand poker book ever written. I am truly shocked! This is how all Poker books should be written. One of Sklanksy's biggest problems when writing books is that he doesn't give enough examples or guidelines like Harrington does. If I put Sklanksy's ideas into Harrington's head and write a book, it would probably be the best poker book ever written. I loved Theory of Poker, but I wish it would have given more Hand examples, how to play those hands, what the situations are, and guidelines, like Harrington's books. For example Sklanksy could have given more Hand examples on when to bluff, semi-bluff, free card, etc. The format, organization, Hand examples, and discussion of the Hand Examples is simply PERFECT! Harrington you are my GOD!

THESE ARE THE BEST POKER BOOKS EVER WRITTEN! I am a 1-2 NL poker player who consistently makes 6000 a month. This coming from me who is a LA (Loose Aggressive style) player. These are also the best organized books for poker I ever read about. He not only tells your preflop guidelines about all the playable hands but postflop as well. If I was playing a TA style I would almost follow Harrington to a Tee! I would suggest this book has an intermediate textbook. There are some advanced concepts but not all of the fancy plays or moves are mentioned (probably for good reason too).

There are so many junk books on poker that actually waste my time and make me stupider! These are diamonds in the rough for any beginner to intermediate player. I say intermediate because no poker player has written advanced books because they don't want to give away all that useful information (as well as their game).

Like I said before I am a LA style player but change gears into a TA style at times too. Harrington gives you guidelines on how you should play a TA style most of the time. If your an excellent hand reader like I am then you know when to apply his guidelines and when not too and how to adjust them. That comes with experience. But If I was trying to teach somebody how to play Poker I would first teach them a TA style and that is exactly what Harrington does! It's to bad his LA comments in vol 2 are a little limited. There's some stuff missing IMHO on how to play a LA style but at least he discusses it for about 50 pages.

What I would like for Vol 3 is for Harrington (perhaps with a professional LA style player like Gus Hanson) to do the exact same book with the same hands (and some more) but from an LA style's perspective. For Vol 4, I would like for him to mention some more fancy plays or advanced concepts that the Pro's use like he did in Vol 1 with Hand examples from that show High stakes poker. There is 1 fundamental flaw of this book but it could not be helped. Now that my opponents have read this book I now know exactly what their thinking most of the time. Although Harrington does use deception and vary's bet sizes and hands throughout the positions, if anybody followed this advice to a tee they would become easily exploitable because somebody like Me would know exactly how their playing. If you find that happening to you then the best thing to do would be to switch to a LA style but more of hand range out of position and deceptive bet-sizing out of position. The fact is most poker players are lazy and they might have read Caro's book of poker tells and 1 other poker book (I just hope they weren't these ones!). That's about it. So against these players (95%) you still have way more useful knowledge directly applicable at the table with these books.

I hope to God nobody else buys these books. That's just more money for me!

Ahh what the hell. I thought I would give you some more advice. 1 book I recommend for playing a LA style is Gus Hansons every hand revealed. You see how a LA style player, plays and thinks. It's format isn't has good as Harringtons but its the best LA style book out there. I've only read it once but now it looks like I will have to read it again 2 more times. This is only if you plan to play a LA style.

There were some other books mentioned previously that must be bought if your an intelligent, serious player. But like I said before I am a greedy son of a bitch and I won't tell you which ones those are. At least now yet!

Last edited by Supervenom; 08-28-2012 at 12:23 AM.
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09-03-2012 , 07:55 AM
dusty schmit "treat your poker like a business"
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09-06-2012 , 04:48 AM
The best poker book I have read is The Rise and Fall of Stu Ungar.
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09-06-2012 , 05:18 AM
DeucesCracked vids > most books
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09-06-2012 , 05:28 AM
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DeucesCracked vids > most books
Can you recommend some good series? There are so many I don't know which ones to watch.
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09-06-2012 , 05:31 AM
For live, the notable one is Bart Hansen's Poker with your Pants on.

Tommy Angelo's Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment or whatever is obviously relevant too.
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09-06-2012 , 06:59 PM
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Does that book actually show you how he played or is it just one of those my life story books? I saw the movie but it didn't really go into what a Loose-aggressive player he was.
Its a life story book, the title doesnt say only recommend strategy books.
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09-17-2012 , 10:40 PM
I just deleted 31 posts in this thread that had nothing to do with books...

Perma bans from here on out IMO... well not that hard, but infractions and possible temp bans fo sho!
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09-17-2012 , 11:32 PM
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I just deleted 31 posts in this thread that had nothing to do with books...

Perma bans from here on out IMO... well not that hard, but infractions and possible temp bans fo sho!
wimp.
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09-18-2012 , 04:42 AM
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I just deleted 31 posts in this thread that had nothing to do with books...

Perma bans from here on out IMO... well not that hard, but infractions and possible temp bans fo sho!
THANK YOU!
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09-18-2012 , 08:57 AM
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Can you recommend some good series? There are so many I don't know which ones to watch.
Wilt On Tilt does a vid on live poker in his Poker Sense series. Cant remember if the full episode was dedicated to live poker but its long. Absolutely worth checking out
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02-21-2013 , 10:20 PM
Every so often people ask about Tells. If after weatherig the discussion of whether tells are of any importance you decide you want to read a book, I recommend this one over the age old standard Caro's book of Tells. I purchased it last month and finnaly got around to finishing it.

http://www.readingpokertells.com/rea...ells-the-book/

It's pretty basic stuff really but all in all it is decent and has some valuable stuff. I like that he specifically cites and clarifies/corrects several things from Caro's book. Also he does a good job of establishing what he calls a framework for interpreting tells. Waiting for action tells, post bet tells etc. This framework seems to be a better approach than Caro's IMO and explains how the same tell can indicate weak in some spots and strong in others.

As for the value of tells at Live Low Stakes the author actually covers this very well in this article on his blog which will a)give you a feel for his writing and b)illustrate that tells should be toward the bottom of the low stakes players list of priorities.

http://www.readingpokertells.com/201...-1-2-no-limit/

None the less... if you want a Live Tells book there are few choices and this one is better and more up to date than the caro book IMO. Be warned it's not a huge book so some might consider it over priced. But it's a niche market.
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07-27-2013 , 03:13 PM
Has anybody read any of the intermediate/advanced books below and helped them win more at live cash games? I'm looking for the best book to start with so my win rate for live 2/5-5/5 will keep improving. I've read many of the older cash game books.

1) Playing The Player: Moving Beyond ABC Poker To Dominate Your Opponents by Ed Miller, 2012. Overpriced, but worth it compared to the inexpensive non-Miller books at the bottom?

2) Poker Plays You Can Use by Doug Hull, 2013. Same as 1).

3) How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold'em by Ed Miller, 2011. Same as 1).

4) Dynamic Full Ring Poker: Beyond The Basics by James "Splitsuit" Sweeney, 2011. Some of the material is meant for online/HUDs, but the sections I've read are pretty good theory.

5) Applications of No-Limit Hold'em by Matthew Janda, 2013. 2+2 book, but more for online 6-max?

6) The No-Limit Holdem Workbook: Exploiting Regulars by Tri "SlowHabit" Nguyen, 2009.

7) The Poker Blueprint: Advanced Strategies for Crushing Micro & Small Stakes NL by Tri Nguyen, 2010. Applicable to live 2/5+?

8) Professional No-Limit Hold'em by Ed Miller et al, 2007. Available for <= $16 unlike the newer Miller books, but is it still useful for today's 2/5+?

9) How I Made My First Million From Poker by Tri Nguyen. 2011.

10) ?
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07-27-2013 , 03:40 PM
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Has anybody read any of the intermediate/advanced books below and helped them win more at live cash games? I'm looking for the best book to start with so my win rate for live 2/5-5/5 will keep improving. I've read many of the older cash game books.

1) Playing The Player: Moving Beyond ABC Poker To Dominate Your Opponents by Ed Miller, 2012. Overpriced, but worth it compared to the inexpensive non-Miller books at the bottom?
Worth every penny. Very good book.

2) Poker Plays You Can Use by Doug Hull, 2013. Same as 1).
Haven't read, on the top of the "to buy" list.

3) How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold'em by Ed Miller, 2011. Same as 1).
Very good. Really needs to be read before/in conjunction with Playing the Player. PtP refers to this a good bit and you could almost glue them together cover to cover and treat them as one volume.

4) Dynamic Full Ring Poker: Beyond The Basics by James "Splitsuit" Sweeney, 2011. Some of the material is meant for online/HUDs, but the sections I've read are pretty good theory.
On the list.

5) Applications of No-Limit Hold'em by Matthew Janda, 2013. 2+2 book, but more for online 6-max?

6) The No-Limit Holdem Workbook: Exploiting Regulars by Tri "SlowHabit" Nguyen, 2009.

7) The Poker Blueprint: Advanced Strategies for Crushing Micro & Small Stakes NL by Tri Nguyen, 2010. Applicable to live 2/5+?
Meh. Seemed like more hype and ego than it needed. All the material is covered by other books better.

8) Professional No-Limit Hold'em by Ed Miller et al, 2007. Available for <= $16 unlike the newer Miller books, but is it still useful for today's 2/5+?
Don't play a lot of 2/5, but this is still a really good book. (As is the follow up, Small Stakes NLHE.

9) How I Made My First Million From Poker by Tri Nguyen. 2011.

10) ?
I'm a big fan of the Miller books. They have good content and are well written and well presented. So are Owen Gaines' books. None of the DV stuff I've read from Tri Nguyen has been all that stellar in either content or presentation.
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07-27-2013 , 03:49 PM
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I'm a big fan of the Miller books. They have good content and are well written and well presented. So are Owen Gaines' books. None of the DV stuff I've read from Tri Nguyen has been all that stellar in either content or presentation.
This.
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07-27-2013 , 08:49 PM
Yeah i can just recommend Miller books.
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08-18-2013 , 03:00 AM
Looking for some recommended books to learn strategy necessary to crush 1/2 2/5 live no limit cash
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08-18-2013 , 05:40 AM
NLHE Theory and Practice, and prof NLHE Vol 1 are probably the best primers. EZ Game is also very good once you get the basics down
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08-18-2013 , 01:26 PM
Even though I basically poo poo books as a true method of developing poker skills, i will go on record as saying that I approve of Ed Millers written work (at least most of what i have read of it).
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08-18-2013 , 01:42 PM
Curious who exactly do you think you are?
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09-10-2013 , 05:19 PM
All,

Been a while since I posted, apologies in advance if this is another "book post".

I played on FTP as a winner in the nl100 games. I've searched for a while over the last week and found a few good tips in regards to live poker books, but a lot of recommendations tend to focus on online 6-max NL100/NL200 games.

Looking for suggestions on good books to help me revisit fundamentals and beat some of the small stakes (usually short stacked in CA) games in the local so cal cardrooms.

Currently reading Poker Math that Matters by Owen Gaines to get back in touch with basic math.
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