Was playing a home game the other night and we had a bet to $10, a raise to $30, a call, then a shove for $49.

It was one players understanding that an all-in raise amount for over exactly half the previous raise size would re-open the action.

The TDA rules state that while this may be true for limit or spread limit. It is not true for NL.

48: Re-Opening the Bet.

In no-limit and pot limit, an all-in wager (or multiple short all-ins) totaling less than a full bet or raise does not reopen betting for players who have already acted and are not facing at least a full bet or raise when the action returns to them. In limit, at least 50% of a full bet or raise is required to re-open betting for players who have already acted. See Illustration Addendum.

I am just curious if this would be true for cash games as well as tournament poker.

Furthermore, some players are contesting that the so called 'carny' games are 'non all-in' games so does that mean raises play like limit?

Any feedback is appreciated.

This is one of those rules that are house specific, add I've played in actual casinos that enforce both 50% and 100% to reopen action. In your case where it's a home game in which every procedural issue probably wasn't outlined prior to starting the game, following TDA is probably the way to go. I will say that IME 100% raise to reopen action is more common than 50%. I would stick with that unless something else is specifically outlined prior to starting your next home game.

We have always played that the shove needs to be for at least the size of the re-raise (in this case from $30 to $50) in order for the action to re-open. But I am sure it is different for whatever the HG rules are. So in our game, no one could come over the top of the $49.

In a home game, it is going to be whatever the host or the majority feel is fair. There's no appeal to a higher authority that is going to matter.

Both this...

And this.

Question asked and answered. For more info on this rule and differing interpretations of it, please do a search in the Casino and Cardroom Poker Forum. I know they had a thread on it just a couple of weeks ago.

Clifs: The 100% rule is more common, but the 50% rule is used for NL in some places, and some places even (mis)interpret that the raise must be double the size of the previous total bet (rather than just the raise portion of it), so at least $60 in your example above.