Hey guys,

What kinds of hands would you raise in the BB versus limpers with a weak range? For example, I was in the BB with $400 versus 2 passive weak players with about $200. Both limping and calling down a wide range.

V1 calls on the button and V2 calls in the SB. Hero in the BB has Ac5c. Is this good enough for a PF raise or will being OOP against at least one opponent make it better to just check?

Would you open your UTG range in a situation like this? Mine is 77+ 98s+ suited broadway cards and A5s. Or would you tighten up more because of the position and only raise even more premium?

Thanks!

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If they are weak I raise it up and fire the flop expecting to take down a small pot vaste majority of time.

Makes sense. Yeah I figure I'd have the equity edge so may as well get more money in PF. Think I lost a few hands in this type of situation and it had me reevaluating.

Glad blue horseshoe loves ib4l Amanaplan!

Raising, for lack of a better play, is good.

It depends on how many limpers and from which position

A5s could go either way, but I think a Raise is slightly better.

If Villains are limping a wide weak range and calling light vs a ROL my raising range would be value heavy.
88+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A8o+, KT+, QT+, JT seens like a good range here.

If we know they can fold some weak A like A4-A7 we could put some A2o-A3o as bluff.
And if they are folding a 30% of their OL we could go with 62s-63s, 52s-53s, 42s+, 32s also as a bluff.

In this particular situation, you've written that these villains are calling down wide. Your fold equity is as a consequence low. Pursuing a strategy of cbetting the flop hoping they will fold seems to be foolhardy.

Let's look at your equities against two villains. Preflop, you are a slight favorite with a 36/32/32 edge if they are limping 50% of their range. If you flop an ace, you're golden. Your equity goes to a 60/20/20 edge. If you flop a 5, your edge actually decreases a bit. And if you miss, you're a 20/40/40 underdog.

I don't think the edge in hand strength overcomes the disadvantage of position against these villains. You'll want to tighten up your raising range. Now if the villains l/f often pf and play fit or fold on the flop, I'd be raising even wider than A5.

With $200 stacks in a 1/3 NL game, I think we should have an extremely tight raising range against 2 limpers, especially OOP, especially if limpers are passive (and limping in hands many should think they should raise). A raise with these stacks puts stacks in play by the river (sometimes even by the turn) and creates very awkward commitment spots with TP (and we often simply help our opponents correctly commit the big TP hands they're limping). If we feel we must get out-of-line sometimes, do it on the Button.

Gwitha~shortishstackweshouldalmostneverbegettingou t-of-line,imoG

Yea, this seems like one of those spots where raising doesn't accomplish much. I'd just keep the pot small here and look for better spots.

If you do decide to raise, I'd go something really big like $40. You'll take the pot down PF and scoop the $6 close to 100% of the time