Hi all,

1/3 MGM National Harbor. Playing 6-handed. I am about $200 and raise to $18 from the cutoff over one limper with 87ss. SB (tight older lady) calls. Limper calls. Old lady has around $250. Limper is short ($30). Pot $57.

Flop: K-Q-9. rainbow (no spade).

We all check.

Turn: 4. Checked to me and I bet $25. Old lady calls. Pot $107.

River: A. Old lady checks, hero bets $55.

What do you think about this line? I feel like the board hits my range pretty hard, but I wasn't sure how to capitalize on my position to try and win the pot with eight-high. Should I have just given up?

Thanks,
DT

If someone with only 10bb limps, we don't want to isolate them with speculative hands. All the money is going to go in and we'll have to win at showdown. 8 high doesn't do that often.

Yeah you can't iso there unless you have some read that the guy is going to fold. Fold and limp would both be OK. I like everything postflop though.

I mean, KQ9 is gonna hit your range hard, but if she's the type of old lady I'm thinking about (and I think most of us are thinking about) then the fact of the matter is that KQ9 hits her range harder. the point being that even with her being capped that I don't think we have a huge advantage on this board besides being IP

river we're betting $55 into $110 so we need to win the pot a third of the time to show a profit.

I have a hard time thinking that she's gonna float turn with hands like 98. so I'm gonna start her turn calling range off at around QT

so let's say she folds QT, QJ... maybe maybe maybe something like KT *i'll give it to you whatever. this would be 12 combos each, for 36 combos folded.

I'm giving her calls/(raises) with AK, AQ, KQ,(9) KJ,(12) JT,(16) KK, QQ, 99, 44(3) (gonna stop there)
67 combos.
so whatever, river is probably close. better to have a good feel for how she'll play Kx here. we could probably bet river smaller, as the hands that I listed don't seem to me (vs an OWC) to care what our river sizing is. maybe 35-40 sounds better to me to still get the Qx folds, and possibly the bad clicks with Kx as well.

I kinda like the ISO. could see some merit to making up the decision based on only players who overfold limps or are really bad postflop.

The river is played well thanks to spiking one of your few bluffing outs.

Don't iso 10bb limpers with 8-high.

Don't raise 1/10th your stack with 8-high.

Based on this HH, you should probably either buy-in full or move down where you can play full.

Don't delay stab with zero equity at KQ9r 3-way when a blank rolls off.

I don't mind mixing it up and raising 87 suited
but against the right V's

limper only has $30
not deep enough to peak my intrest

I don't attempt to isolate shortstack limpers of just $57 with 8 high. Instead, I overlimp and attempt to invite in the blinds and play a speculative hand for cheap in position. If stacks were much deeper then much more reason to attempt to isolate, but this short it's all about big card poker and we have 8 high.

Think I probably also check this flop. We can probably get small pairs to fold this flop, but otherwise too good a chance someone has flopped enough on this board where a cbet ain't going to get thru.

Our bet on the turn makes little sense given our flop check so I'm guessing we get looked up too often at this point.

Undoubtedly the best bluffing card in the deck on the river, so now that we're in this spot with 0% showdown value I don't mind a bluff attempt.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Right. Never iso short stacks with low cards because it limits your ability to maneuver post flop as the hand will get shown way too often.

I missed the $30 stack like 4 different times, just finally saw it. agree with all above, not isoing a shorty. Like limping behind.