I like 4betting/folding to $250-$270 as well.

Calling isn't great as it lets V2 player in, or V2 can 4bet lighter as well if he is aware of what is going on.

Since the deck bails you out - just call the turn bet. The pot will have $1190 in it, with us having $1800~ behind. You have a wide array of options on the river, and if he bets anything you can shove over his bet.

I'm skipping the PF discussion and going right to your question.
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The most important question on the turn is how will he perceive a shove here? Even a tilted player should be able to realize a non-shove raise is just setting him up to pile the river, so i'm not making that raise.

If he is going to call anything, shove. If he is still capable of folding, call and hope he keeps firing on the river/bet whatever you can get a call from.

Dragging V2 along is a very minimal risk and one worth taking.

Make it $1600

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Grunch- Cold 4-bet or fold, I would mainly fold unless I think SB is truly steaming then cold 4. As played, just call the turn, your perceived range is like 99-QQ, AK and some suited broadways here so blocking the As I would just flat in position on the bettor as I don't know how many perceived bluff raises we have on the turn AsK?

I think the villain as described is going to keep spewing, and I want to keep spew in their range and not shut it down with a raise; so I flat the big turn bet and set myself up to get the money in, one way or another, on the river.

(If the villain bets the river leaving anything behind, I am going to tank for a substantial length of time, and then sigh-shove.)

But there is little point in analyzing branches of the game tree we should never, ever find ourselves dangling from. Preflop is either a clear, unambigous four-bet, or a clear, unambiguous fold, and it all comes down to whether or not the opener is going to come along for the ride. Four-bet if we think the opener will fold a lot of their range and we get to play our hand against SB's tilt-range; fold if we think the opener is sticky.

Ive never heard it put this way. It's kinda poetic even haha. Is it true tho? I don't see why it would be in this spot. Why make his range stronger or miss out on playing a huge pot with tilty mcgee?

The dude is super tilted and the OR is going to flat almost his entire continue range. A case can be made that he should flat everything. So I think the cc is fine. It's a weird live spot where theory goes out the window imo.

As for the hand I'm calling turn and hoping he blasts river. It looks a lot like KKsx or something close to that. If it's Kxss then we get it all no matter what. Let him hang himself

Yeah I think it’s pretty much always true? It usually manifests itself with a cbet take it down.

Can we get results for this hand?

Results-oriented, much?

ETA: We already have all the result we need: The OP made a disastrous flat-call of a three-bet preflop, and then luckboxed their way into the nuts on the turn.

Are you suggesting that OPs should never come back to post results?

The request for results isn't to evaluate whether OP made a good play. The point of posting results is that every result we see is another small piece of evidence for tuning our model of how players tend to behave.

This.

It has nothing to do with being results-oriented.

My reason for asking for results is to gauge whether my own internal ranging mechanism for Villain was accurate. He takes a very strange line in this hand. Check flop as PFR and then PSB on turn. I’m curious to know what hands will take this line. Just a bit of data which might help me in the future.

I would either fold or 4 bet preflop. Would be concerned about V2 EP raise.

As played, I think you can go both ways. Flatting here keeps all of his bluffs in and you can look to play the river in position with an easy jam over a river bet.

Other option would be to put in a small raise on the turn to set up a river jam. Most of villans bluffs on the turn should contain an As in which you block holding the nuts. His value range contains a lot of overpairs pot controlling the flop. I think a raise to $900 should allow him to continue with his overpairs containing a spade which will set up a nice river jam.

I doubt tilted Villains are pot controlling overpairs or checking back flush draws as PFR. I think Villains range here is super weak, which is why I advocated calling turn to keep his bluffs in the hand.

He could have been going for a XR OTF

Hard to find bluff combos in his range with hero holding AsJs. Never mentioned villan checking a flush draw. I would tend to believe he would be betting the flop with flush draws but the only feasible combo would be KQss (would be hard for me to believe he is 3 betting out of the blinds vs an EP raise with K10ss & Q10ss. It's also hard to me to believe that he would be blasting off here into two opponents OOP with complete air on the turn.

Taking this into consideration, I was stating that his value range would consist of pot controlled overpairs (possibly containing a spade) and it's also difficult for me to find bluff combos with this configuration and hero's blockers. In any case, I think there is merit for both options between flatting and putting a small raise.