1/2 NL - max $300 bi - casino

I'm opening or three betting just about every hand I enter. Not showing any hands at all, and table is just now starting to show less respect to my pf raises.

Hero($450) mid position. Raise to 9 with black 66 and buy position. Calls from SB ($100) (weak passive player) and BB ($375) (another weak passive player). 3 way to flop.
($27)
Flop is 569r. sb checks, bb donks $18. (Hero?). I opt to flat. SB min raises to $40, BB calls, Hero?

Fist pump jam amirite? I think that’s what I’d do... but I suck. It’d either go fold, fold or I would get looked up by 78.

Maybe flatting and hoping the board pairs is a good play? Then again, there are plenty of cards that can kill the action and not many that can induce action while giving you the nuts.

I think you have to re-raise here. I believe SB may call or jam, and BB will fold and then you make your decision based on reads. I’m a sizing fish, though... and I think that’s the tricky part about this. My gut tells me the rereaise could be 100 more to 140 all day... but I’m not sure if that creates pot odds that are too generous for our opponent(s), assuming they’re behind right now, and that they have a draw that can beat us if it gets there.


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vs a passive player minraising over two players?

I'm probably calling. SB will have $51 left on the turn. Assuming he ships a safe turn, and BB just calls, I'm raising to $150, and hoping to get the rest in on the river.

IMO, call > raise to $125 > ship >>>>>> fold.

Bing!

Agreed

CIB/f?

Fold after CIB would be atrocious.

It depends how tight passive he is. A 4bet on that flop from a weak passive player is at least top set but yea we're only 150 bb's deep.

It would just be such a weird line to get backraised in that spot (after donk lead, call chk/raise) that if he has 99, then he probably has 55 and maybe 56 too, so we shouldn't be doing so bad against ranges that aren't only the nuts. Actually, after that action, I wouldn't be surprised to see AA or KK. I've seen this happen too many times to count - big overpairs playing passively pre only to go crazy postflop on bad boards... If the range is mostly the nuts, then we'll still have decent odds to fill up.

Shove. SB is too short to consider anything else. If he has the straight, who cares, you've got over 40% equity to beat him and you crush everything else.

more like 35%

Shoving isn't some magic tonic to maximize value. The hand includes somebody other than SB.

For some reason I thought we were much deeper. The min raiser only has $100 and the caller in the BB has $375.

If we raise we cant really fold but the question is do we flat to keep them in and jam the turn or jam now

Another option we have is to raise to 65, expect SB to jam, BB to call, then raise over BB's flat. Given that any draws BB has are like at most 4 outs, no reason to jam on flop at any time, just keep massaging more money into the pot.

Really? Maybe if you're more condescending I'lI understand better.

I don't like flatting here because turn 4 / 7 / 8 are very bad. Are we calling hoping the deeper stack hits something (not a straight) and then stacks off? That doesn't seem likely to me. He donked the flop so probably has a combo draw or something like A9 / T9. I don't think we're getting much more from him on turns that aren't horrible for us.

SB is never folding. Just ship it.

Why is a 4 bad?

BB has 32 obviously. But seriously I guess it's not that bad except as a probable action-killing card. 7s and 8s are much worse. I guess I'm wondering what the advantage of flatting here is. Is the deep stack really going to hit anything he'll pay us off with besides a straight?

Call man. In position of bb and sb auto shipping any turn. Bb isn't gonna blindly bluff scare cards into a dry side pot so you can get off easy if he raises turn (usually) or raise when he flats.

I did end up flatting. Turn bricked. SB jammed, BB folded. I know its besides the point, but rivered 6 for quads. SB shows 79. BB said he also had 79, so Im not getting much more right here either way. For those that said something about folding - uh, no. It wasnt even an option in op. I posted because I was in pain trying to figure out optimal play for getting BBs chips. In this situation, with all hands face up, I got max value by flatting/flatting probably, but Im still not sure if I should have reraised.

nh. I think you played it as best you could to extract as much as possible.

I was the one who mentioned folding because I thought we were deep (I misread the OP) but if we WERE 300 bb's deep, and we did raise the flop and got 4bet from a tight player, it's usually the nuts (78).