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03-23-2020 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Lol okay. You believe that man
Pretty sure if I had a time machine I would be one of the best players in the world in 2009.
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03-23-2020 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
I barely even know what the argument or point is as it’s all so vague and hardly worth discussing or getting worked up about.

As wj294 said, I’m 100% positive I have more perspective on this as I played then and now. If you want proof of what I’m talking about just go on YouTube and watch any nosebleed stakes live game such as HSP, which had your man crush play on them. You will see extremely fishy plays on the regular.

I also see modern games that have your man crush Dwan playing on them and I’m 100% certain that he is the biggest or second biggest spot on the table.

As Rickroll said, you could basically suck at poker, not study, not try to improve and hang at reasonable stakes a decade ago. I know because I did exactly the same thing. I am three to four times the player I was then as I am now and I seriously question what stakes I’ll be beating online when I start up again soon. It’s just reality. There’s way fewer people punting stacks.

Your idols grew up at the best time to make millions, you’re likely growing up at the worst time. I’m not even trying to be an ***hole to you. I’m just stating reality. I’m going to continue on with my day and disengage in this discussion because I don’t expect it to alter your POV whatsoever. I hope you do well, and that’s not sarcasm.
There’s a huge difference between your overall sentiment, that poker is 1000x harder nowadays, which I agree with, and what you and wj are saying. Not every amazing online player nowadays is a human solver- that’s a fact. A lot of those same people would struggle to make the adjustments necessary to beat a pool of the same wizards rather than an anonymous player pool with population tendencies to exploit.

That’s what I’m disputing. Whether or not it’s important/relevant/etc. is a completely different story.

Since you guys seem to think Dwan is overrated or something take Jungleman/Galfond. They were crushing pre Black Friday and still around nowadays. Yeah they’ve gotten much better over the years but it’s not like they’ve ever lost momentum due to things getting more difficult. They’re still among the best in the world- even today.

To say you would take a winning 200z reg over someone like that is insane. And it defies logic. Chess has also gotten much harder over time. For reference, I could beat the best chess engine in the 70s/80s with my ten year old self. Despite that resource, Fischer’s play in the 1960’s would arguably still make him one of the top 15 players in the world today. And Kasparov’s in the 90s would certainly crush today.

A lot of the reason why some people get worse as they age at anything strategical is because their priorities change. And they’re not as sharp. And they’re not willing to adapt. And a million other reasons that suddenly don’t matter I guess.

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03-23-2020 , 03:34 PM
This is what us rednecks posing as real cowboys do to pass the time during this crisis. From yesterday.



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03-23-2020 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Pretty sure if I had a time machine I would be one of the best players in the world in 2009.
100%. And i would make a million, zero doubt in my mind.
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03-23-2020 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
JFC just saw Madonna on Instagram in her bathtub and all I could think was “who the **** is THAT?” What happened to her face?


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She's 62 years old now. Damn.
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03-23-2020 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
Most belts, dress belts etc... have rivets that permanently attach the buckle to the belt. Western belts use snaps instead of rivets so that belt buckles become interchangeable. So in that sense you need a special kind of belt.




A real cowboy doesn't give a **** what he looks like. Most likely wearing faded wrangler jeans, long sleeve shirt, tore up boots and a cowboy hat with years if sweat stains showing. Much like other professions, it is a uniform that protects them when they are on the job. Mostly for protection from the sun and that calf you are trying to wrangle which will occasionally get the best of you and stomp you down.

I wouldn't consider myself a real cowboy. I, like many other professions where your work day is mostly outside, simply wear one for protection from the sun. I still work cattle when I'm down south, but that consists of driving a truck into the pen you want the cattle in and honking the horn. They will come running in because you have done this hundreds of times before because you always feed them cattle cake (cubes).

Close the gate behind them and then 2 to 3 people can cut out the calves that need attention and run them into a squeeze chute. At that point they are immobilized and you can vaccinate, brand or cut their balls off without the risk of hurting yourself.

As a kid we did the whole ride a horse, rope the calf, throw it on the ground, tie up the legs and then do the above, but it was just for fun to see if we could do it. When it was really "nut cuttin' time" we used the squeeze chute.

A fake cowboy likely has a perfectly shaped new hat, starched shirt, starched jeans with bling on the back pockets and some exotic skinned boots without a scratch on them that likely costs over a thousand bucks. A sure fire way to tell for sure is to walk up to them and ask how many head of cattle they are running. Guessing 90% would say zero or lie.

Like with anything else, you get better at it with experience.




As DC pointed out, they are a type of boot. They are called ropers because they have a very short heel that are designed to easily come out if a stirrup so that when you rope a calf from a horse you don't get hung up trying to get off of your horse to go tie it down.

Boots with tall heels are typically called riding boots as they are designed to keep your boot securely in the stirrup for activities that don't require a quick dismount.




In the last few years that I can recall, they have had them at all of the port-a-potty stations. I would say that there were more hand san stations randomly placed throughout. The one I took a pic of was about 40 feet from our camp site.

I would recommend that if you ever get a chance to go to a large BBQ cook off in the south you should stop in. Can kill a day just walking around and checking out all of the different designs. And most always have something cooking that they are happy to share.

Was speaking mainly to the huge buckles that actually look rather ridiculous. Typically those are given out as trophies at rodeo events, so in essence, it is a wearable trophy. Guess it would be like you getting a replica superbowl ring made and wearing it around. The smaller one's with cool engraved animals and such are fine to buy and wear.
Thanks, I learned a lot. So it's more a function of profession rather than attire.
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03-23-2020 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OvertlySexual
She's 62 years old now. Damn.
I went to the same elementary, middle school, high school and university as her. We also had the same piano teacher. Yet oddly never met her.
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03-23-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
i kind of took it that he also missed the comradery that went with doing the work with his friends. i could be way off on this, but i think it's just he's gotten older and him and his poker friends all now have lives outside of poker. he used to do this stuff with friends, now they aren't around as much and it's kind of boring. but ****, i could be so off the mark.
Oh yeah that's exactly why I got sad. He said it was him and a bud working spreadsheets and stove together to figure things out.
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03-23-2020 , 04:08 PM
Can you guys who are sure we've moved that far ahead from 2009 knowledge about the game list out the leaks you have in mind? There have to be specific things you are thinking about.

I don't know about NL, but I think in limit those days winners were still not defending their blinds enough, weren't check raising flops that favored their range oop enough, and top players knew to three bet way more but your typical midstakes winners still weren't doing it. Plus only a select few of people had gotten their vpip/pfr up to LAG/LAGTAG levels to squeeze every drop of preflop edge. I knew solid pros still nit-tagging.
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03-23-2020 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
agreed, i luckboxed my way into playing in macau back in the aughts and found it easier than nl2

First casino poker in Macau was at Lisboa in 08, no?
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03-23-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Can you guys who are sure we've moved that far ahead from 2009 knowledge about the game list out the leaks you have in mind? There have to be specific things you are thinking about.

I don't know about NL, but I think in limit those days winners were still not defending their blinds enough, weren't check raising flops that favored their range oop enough, and top players knew to three bet way more but your typical midstakes winners still weren't doing it. Plus only a select few of people had gotten their vpip/pfr up to LAG/LAGTAG levels to squeeze every drop of preflop edge. I knew solid pros still nit-tagging.
There were a ton more punters. PF strat even at the high levels was pretty bad and very crude. People just weren't connecting the dots with the ranges much less worrying about balance in spots.

Unbridled aggression with a deep BR alone could get you pretty far. Evidenced w/ Isildur and Wilhasha.
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03-23-2020 , 05:42 PM
Online poker update

Was playing a bunch of 10/25nl- up 10 buyins pretty quickly over the course of 3 days then got invited to play on an app with my usual group and been playing that instead.

Unlikely I play much more 100bb $10 and $25 buck buyins when I can play 200bb 5/10 with people I know. And really nice to quickly play 1000s of short handed play with the people I play with 99% of the time.


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03-23-2020 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
Online poker update

Was playing a bunch of 10/25nl- up 10 buyins pretty quickly over the course of 3 days then got invited to play on an app with my usual group and been playing that instead.

Unlikely I play much more 100bb $10 and $25 buck buyins when I can play 200bb 5/10 with people I know. And really nice to quickly play 1000s of short handed play with the people I play with 99% of the time.


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I hit an absolute gold mine app 18 months ago when regs from my game organised a private club. there was a great reg/rec combo and we played 6 max 3/6 and 4/8.

Wasn't a giant sample size...think I played about 10k hands with them but it was weird...guys I thought of as solid regs and ok winning pros in my live games had these major leaks that became obvious playing more hands and having some topline stats on them. Actually really helped my live game vs them as well as winning vs them on the app
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03-23-2020 , 06:03 PM
Online private games sound pretty fun.
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03-23-2020 , 06:34 PM
"Let There Be Range" was published in 2008. It looks rudimentary now.
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03-23-2020 , 07:32 PM
Repetitive Tourette's Activity?
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03-23-2020 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
I hit an absolute gold mine app 18 months ago when regs from my game organised a private club. there was a great reg/rec combo and we played 6 max 3/6 and 4/8.

Wasn't a giant sample size...think I played about 10k hands with them but it was weird...guys I thought of as solid regs and ok winning pros in my live games had these major leaks that became obvious playing more hands and having some topline stats on them. Actually really helped my live game vs them as well as winning vs them on the app

Noticing the same thing. Also forced shotclock is really nice. I’ve always acted quickly so I think it’s benefitting my style more than some of the guys that take much longer to work their way through hands.


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03-23-2020 , 10:05 PM
FWIW I can say with a high level of confidence that current me would beat Durrrr or Isidul1 from 2009. Does that make me the better poker player? Well no, they were beating $200/400 when I was beating $2/4, you have to compare apples to apples.

But yeah if you just gave me a time machine I would destroy everyone.
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03-23-2020 , 10:12 PM
Odds that U of M Poker is 67o's 3rd account?
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03-23-2020 , 10:22 PM
Odds that they are all DreamCrusher?
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03-23-2020 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by IAMthepokerhack
Odds that they are all DreamCrusher?
100%
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03-23-2020 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
FWIW I can say with a high level of confidence that current me would beat Durrrr or Isidul1 from 2009. Does that make me the better poker player? Well no, they were beating $200/400 when I was beating $2/4, you have to compare apples to apples.

But yeah if you just gave me a time machine I would destroy everyone.
Also 100% believe.
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03-23-2020 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Odds that U of M Poker is 67o's 3rd account?
joke is dead man
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03-23-2020 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Brag: My article on Purdue and Pearl Harbor was just published in Air Power History journal. You can find it on pages 27-44 (of the magazine, 29-36 of the pdf) here, if you're interested.
Garick, please keep posting this stuff in the future, this is my jam, will read it this afternoon once i'm done sparring with shopify

you really should post it on a friendly format like medium or something though

what are your thoughts on this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_...spiracy_theory

as far as conspiracy theories go, it's probably my favorite
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