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09-13-2020 , 06:31 AM
Wayyyyyyyy over lol.
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09-13-2020 , 08:53 AM
Folded kk pre in a cash game for the first time ever today. Think it was correct but still not at all sure how I feel about it

2/5-10. There was an mp raise to 30, button goes 85, I went 280 in bb and nitty older guy in straddle went all in for 1100. Probably should just get it in anyway but...
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09-13-2020 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Folded kk pre in a cash game for the first time ever today. Think it was correct but still not at all sure how I feel about it

2/5-10. There was an mp raise to 30, button goes 85, I went 280 in bb and nitty older guy in straddle went all in for 1100. Probably should just get it in anyway but...

When did your nuts get removed?


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09-13-2020 , 09:29 AM
omc cold 4 bet jams, I think finding the fold is A ok in this "spot"
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09-13-2020 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by squid face
omc cold 4 bet jams, I think finding the fold is A ok in this "spot"

Shhh we’re supposed to make him feel bad about it


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09-13-2020 , 09:44 AM
So - you put in 28% of your stack pre only to fold to what is obviously a spaz move. Do you have any clue about pot committment. U somekinda fishcake or sumpin?

how dat?
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09-13-2020 , 09:56 AM
I could go for some fish cakes right about now. With a nice tartar.
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09-13-2020 , 10:39 AM
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Do you know how to not get arrested for corruption and mail fraud?
Interesting dig. Tell us more
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09-13-2020 , 10:49 AM
So, i'm from NY. Got a ticket in south carolina on I-95. 87 in a 70. 175$ 4 points. Haven't gotten a ticket in years so no other points....

Do I just pay this and eat the points? Do I pay an s.c. atty a few hundo to no guarentee get it reduced (likely same fine, fewer points). I do not need to appear either way.

No idea how points affect insurance etc, not even certain they transfer to home state though usually they do...

Pen thoughts???
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09-13-2020 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by squid face
So - you put in 28% of your stack pre only to fold to what is obviously a spaz move. Do you have any clue about pot committment. U somekinda fishcake or sumpin?

how dat?

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09-13-2020 , 10:57 AM
Thats Duncan

BBV

Brag- Duncan likes counter surfing. On Thursday he ate 1/2lb of raw bacon. He was very happy with himself

Beat- he has been sick as a dog since and needs to see the vet tomorrow

Variance - certain he didn't learn his lesson. Cause he's a dog and does dog stuff. SMH
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09-13-2020 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
So, i'm from NY. Got a ticket in south carolina on I-95. 87 in a 70. 175$ 4 points. Haven't gotten a ticket in years so no other points....

Do I just pay this and eat the points? Do I pay an s.c. atty a few hundo to no guarentee get it reduced (likely same fine, fewer points). I do not need to appear either way.

No idea how points affect insurance etc, not even certain they transfer to home state though usually they do...

Pen thoughts???
I've always got an atty to fight the ticket no matter what. It's pretty much a free roll imo.
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09-13-2020 , 11:13 AM
Meh. Everything's made up and the points don't matter. Just pay it and get it out of your life, imo.
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09-13-2020 , 11:35 AM
My favorite thing to do is to somehow forget about it, then have problems 10 or 15 years later when u need to renew in a new state that reciprocates with the state you offended in.
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09-13-2020 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
Thats Duncan

BBV

Brag- Duncan likes counter surfing. On Thursday he ate 1/2lb of raw bacon. He was very happy with himself

Beat- he has been sick as a dog since and needs to see the vet tomorrow

Variance - certain he didn't learn his lesson. Cause he's a dog and does dog stuff. SMH

Give him some

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09-13-2020 , 01:08 PM
Cute pup - hope he’s ok


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09-13-2020 , 01:11 PM
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Wayyyyyyyy over lol.
Hmm.. maybe we'll see a new poster pop up in this chat:

Spoiler:
RoadtoDealerInPrivateGames
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09-13-2020 , 01:30 PM
It appears my browns are still the lol browns


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09-13-2020 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Hmm.. maybe we'll see a new poster pop up in this chat:

Spoiler:
RoadtoDealerInPrivateGames
You rang?
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09-13-2020 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Folded kk pre in a cash game for the first time ever today. Think it was correct but still not at all sure how I feel about it

2/5-10. There was an mp raise to 30, button goes 85, I went 280 in bb and nitty older guy in straddle went all in for 1100. Probably should just get it in anyway but...
I'm ok with this.
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09-13-2020 , 02:02 PM
I've mucked KK pf once in a similar fashion at 2/5.

OMC 3! and another OMC cold 4! I was in the bb and mucked my KK within 5 seconds.

Spoiler:
It was QQ vs AA naturally.
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09-13-2020 , 02:03 PM
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You rang?
Yes I did!

How's it going "the former poster RoadtoPro"?
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09-13-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Folded kk pre in a cash game for the first time ever today. Think it was correct but still not at all sure how I feel about it

2/5-10. There was an mp raise to 30, button goes 85, I went 280 in bb and nitty older guy in straddle went all in for 1100. Probably should just get it in anyway but...
I've folded KK preflop correctly and incorrectly before.

One time I was just about to fold my kings but they were still in my hands and my opponent (who was in seat 9, I was in seat 1), a tight grinder, showed me his aces to get me to fold. Pot was like $600, and we each had like $1300+ behind. I later discovered he was having bankroll issues so I guess that's why he wanted me to fold.

One time I maybe should have folded was 4 handed vs a grinder (former internet player). We were like 60bigs effective and the pot got like 10-bet preflop because he'd min-raise then i'd min-raise. I thought I was leveling him but it turned out he had aces.
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09-13-2020 , 02:18 PM
feely-

off the top of my head so my b if mis-calcs

you need ~35% equity to call here.

Your equity w/KKs vs. different ranges (approx.):

Vs. AA: 18%

vs. AA-KK 100%, QQs 50% (if you're on the fence): 40%

vs. AA-QQ: 50%

vs. AA-QQ, AKs+: 53%

vs. AA-QQ, AK+:
58%

vs. AA-JJ, AK+: 63%

I know this spot is actually just a shove at equilibrium OOP w/KKs, QQs, AKo, AKs if you keep your frequencies in check so that when you 4-bet small it isn't obvious you have AA.

Live I think just shoving here more often makes sense. You don't really want to play 4-bet pots with anything other than AA OOP because of the low SPR imo and solvers agree with that. EV is the same/similar depending on what positions everyone is.

We really shouldn't be folding any pairs we 4-bet with at this stack depth.

There's not much they can do to exploit you if you just shove here more than you should because of the obvious sample size issue in a spot like this.

Also, there's 10+ BBs out there already. That's $100 or 25 meals for rob.

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09-13-2020 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Yes I did!

How's it going "the former poster RoadtoPro"?
Pretty good thanks for asking! I have to say dealing is way better than playing as the money is much more consistent. You don't have to worry about negative variance unless one of the whales decides to steal from you.

But I just tell them I'm 225 lbs and they apologize right away. So hasn't been an issue.
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