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07-10-2020 , 02:02 PM
You realize PokerBros has no financial incentive in fish losing money, yes?

Their financial incentive is actually the opposite, as well as the operators.

Not saying they run things perfectly as that’s far from the case.
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07-10-2020 , 02:04 PM
I've been secretly drinking tap water because I refuse to tip $10 for bottled water on principle.
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07-10-2020 , 02:20 PM
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5?) Classic / most common line-up is a 3 piece?

GcluelessmusicnoobG
Breast, leg, and thigh.
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07-10-2020 , 02:21 PM
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5?) Classic / most common line-up is a 3 piece?

GcluelessmusicnoobG
4 dudes

Drum
Guitar
Bass
Vocals
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07-10-2020 , 02:21 PM
Can I replace the leg with another breast and add gravy please?

GrethinkingmylunchplansG
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07-10-2020 , 02:22 PM
6) Dude on vocals for the most part only does vocals?

GmymainguesshasbeendestroyedG
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07-10-2020 , 03:02 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uns_XOnWuwI

Some scathing words about poker apps from a couple pros who have nothing to gain from talking **** about these things. (Starting @ :42:22)

I would definitely be careful about apps like pokerbros FWIW.
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07-10-2020 , 03:40 PM
It all depends on your upline.

The problem with "I have a good agent" is that he might get scammed by his superagent/club owner etc.

People worry about unions but the way the ecosystem is structured, very few clubs have a financial dependency upon unions.
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07-10-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
BMF and the other micro regs- is it soft enough nowadays to justify playing to perfect fundamentals? Can you make $20/hr etc.? I used to 4 table 20NL on bros occasionally when tilting and when busy with stuff cuz I like multitasking
I've been getting kicked in the ass by almost every bit of variance lately, but then again a guy let me hit running quads against his flopped set today and paid me off, although he knew he'd been ****ed, so...honestly I'd say maintaining $20 hourly seems high but I also don't 4 table.
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07-10-2020 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
I've been secretly drinking tap water because I refuse to tip $10 for bottled water on principle.
Obv ? ... Why don't you tip less?
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07-10-2020 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
I've been getting kicked in the ass by almost every bit of variance lately, but then again a guy let me hit running quads against his flopped set today and paid me off, although he knew he'd been ****ed, so...honestly I'd say maintaining $20 hourly seems high but I also don't 4 table.
feels bad man best of luck.

Losing $300-500 in one hand online cuz of variance isn't fun for me anymore... since i dunno if I even have an edge. (Very unlikely)

so i am trying to perfect my play and move up like most people do. Money is just an added benefit atm to make it worth my while etc. etc.

Spoiler:

sheeeyit that reminds me pg&c update incoming smh
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07-10-2020 , 05:50 PM
thanks Rob imma quote some of that in my thread if that's cool.

no HUD it is

yah just to be clear that's just how I think guys... I wasn't referring to my goals and don't think I will ever have a 7 figure year in my life LOL.

all that makes sense. The main point being for every Michael Jordan or Jeff Bezos there are tens of thousands of people with the same skillset, work ethic, and drive but weren't afforded the same situation, luck, and opportunities?
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07-10-2020 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by samo
Obv ? ... Why don't you tip less?
Stated before. $10 is the smallest chip.
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07-10-2020 , 07:02 PM
No, not 10s of thousands, but prolly at least a dozen
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07-10-2020 , 07:16 PM
But most of those, if they had the same work ethic and drive, and didn't collapse mentally when they hit a roadblock found some way to be successful anyway, even if it wasn't in the same way they'd envisioned.
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07-10-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
It all depends on your upline.

The problem with "I have a good agent" is that he might get scammed by his superagent/club owner etc.

People worry about unions but the way the ecosystem is structured, very few clubs have a financial dependency upon unions.
I think this is correct - when live died I signed up with an agent in Jacks Up Club, part of Diamond Union I think. He told me "I'll stand behind x$ myself".

and I know he's good for that. Whenever my roll gets over that he says "let's take some off". I'm really not worried myself for a few K having been through the UB thing for a lot more money. But the risk is real I think.
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07-10-2020 , 08:59 PM
RTP-not coming at you with this post-but reading your thoughts on variance I have a story I posted in another thread a couple of days ago-tell me if you think it’s relevant...


Interesting Warren Buffet story....(sorta)

Years ago I lived in the same town as the oracle. I was playing a lot of golf and young enough to join as a junior member, so I joined a small country club downtown. There was a crew of us that were degens and I learned all of the ways to gamble chasing the little white ball around.

After a while a buddy and I start playing regular Sunday morning games with a couple of old codgers. We were playing $5 Nassau’s automatic press when your down with a whole bunch of side gambles (snakes, sandies, greenies, barkies) we had weekly swings of $80 to $100 and thought we were ballers.

These two old guys we were playing with were a hoot and talked just as much smack on each other as we did as they exchanged .30 to ..50 cents at the end of the round.

Finally one week after listening to the cocky young dumbass (me)-giving the guys **** for not gambling for more during yet another post round smack talk in the men’s grille-the bartender waited til the old guys left and told us who we were playing with....2 of the original 5 guys to throw Warren a bone and gamble with him. They both had 9 figures net worth from just being in the right place at the right time and still they were playing for 10 cents a point

I quit giving them ****

(....... I think it really ties into the luck aspect of life-these dudes weren’t anything more than sharp guys with some money to burn at the right time-turned into generational wealth because they happened to live in the right place)
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07-10-2020 , 09:05 PM
Lol "upline"...MLM'er #BossBabe's itt
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07-10-2020 , 09:09 PM
Yeah, luck def breaks both ways. I've been a life luckbox both in terms of opportunities that have fallen into my lap and in terms of avoiding a lot of bad breaks, from not getting a speeding ticket despite pretty consistent lead footedness to coming out ahead on injury EV.
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07-10-2020 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jrr63
I think this is correct - when live died I signed up with an agent in Jacks Up Club, part of Diamond Union I think. He told me "I'll stand behind x$ myself".

and I know he's good for that. Whenever my roll gets over that he says "let's take some off". I'm really not worried myself for a few K having been through the UB thing for a lot more money. But the risk is real I think.
As I said its very difficult for unions to ever steal from clubs, not to mention they're not really incentivized to do so.

What generally happens in these scam horror stories you hear is a club owner goes rogue with everything and doesn't pay his super agents/agents and then the agents feel no reason to pay out the funds they have liquid.

What will often happen as well as the club owner will go belly up and then agents will scatter with deposit money.

The reason people get 5k in venmo from 10 different people is due to 1.Limits
2. People spending money that they shouldn't.

The majority of clubs run their operations HORRIBLY.
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07-10-2020 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
No, not 10s of thousands, but prolly at least a dozen
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But most of those, if they had the same work ethic and drive, and didn't collapse mentally when they hit a roadblock found some way to be successful anyway, even if it wasn't in the same way they'd envisioned.
woah so we do agree? a dozen isn’t a lot right. That’s what I was thinking. Like less than 100 people could have become Jordan, Gates, Obama, w/e.

Second quote is fire and I’m saving it to tell a student who is giving up on the #roadtochessmaster and any more that have similar struggles along teh way.

I could use your wisdom in my thread, Dr. Garick. Also, do reported poasts in other forums get sent to you or is it only Bobo and the other mods? I don’t think that dude likes me lol.

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I think this is correct - when live died I signed up with an agent in Jacks Up Club, part of Diamond Union I think. He told me "I'll stand behind x$ myself".

and I know he's good for that. Whenever my roll gets over that he says "let's take some off". I'm really not worried myself for a few K having been through the UB thing for a lot more money. But the risk is real I think.
Goals.

Try Rob’s club out
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07-10-2020 , 09:37 PM
iatph

That was a fun read, thanks for sharing.

Also, I read your thread and it went pretty deep on a lot of things but I don’t remember my questions being answered in there.

Mind if I ask them again?
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07-10-2020 , 09:41 PM
Your welcome-but perhaps you missed the point-

Do you agree these 2 old guys were lucky in life in terms of earn?

did you post in that thread?-my apologies I didn’t see that-I will go and respond
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07-10-2020 , 09:47 PM
Yes definitely but I’ve never viewed money=success.

I was more referring to guys like Buffett himself who I’m sure got lucky in a plethora of ways, but still would be great without those fortunes.

Still a nice anecdote and crazy to think there are people with 9 figure net worth’s who get adrenaline boosts from 10c
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07-10-2020 , 09:56 PM
So if we agree they were lucky(not WB but the OG investors)

Can we also agree that someone is just as unlucky in lifetime earn then?(based on a standard bell curve distribution?)

Do you see where I’m going with this?

(Do you think this distribution of luck applies in all pursuits? Even just a little?-and is this minute amount enough to make exponential differences in results?)
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