So according to Bart at Deuce plays, the fuzz rule states that when you get raised on the flop, your one pair hands are usually not ever good and if you don't fold you're making a -EV call. (That's the way I understand it anyway)

1/2 NL, effective stacks right around 100BBs.

I'm on the button with AK. 3 people limp, I make it $15 and get two callers.

Pot is $46, flop is:

AT6.

I bet $27, one guy folds, guy in CO makes it $60. (CO is a 40ish guy who limps into a lot of pots, haven't seen him get too aggro all day. Since he's on my right and we were chatty and friendly he's shown me his cards a lot. He's been limping in with lots of suited gappers and connectors, some medium aces like AJ and ATsuited, and all small-medium pairs.)

What do I do here? The 'fuzz rule' says I should fold (I think). It's only $33 more though. My line of thinking was that if he had flopped a set, he would make this small raise. If he had a monster draw, he would 3x it or even larger. I never saw him do anything like this in the 3 hours or so he was next to me.

I can't help but think I'm beat here or up against a 13-17 out draw. I do have one blocker. So I put him on: AT, A6suited, Ax,TT, 66, QJ, 98 78 79. I stoved it when I got home and was surprised to see that I'm flipping against that range.

Tough spot for me. If I call (pot would be around $165). I've got about $125 left which I'm sure is going in on the turn whether a comes or not. If the club does come, I have a redraw to a Khigh flush which may not be good anyway. So it feels like an all in or fold situation.

Fuzz rule is ok, but what about call reevaluate line Bart recommends?

he does say there are times when you can peel once and your opponent will give away the strength of their hand on later streets, but that won't really apply here since your opponent is very likely betting, usually shoving, all turns after c/r. it applies more when you are deep and you know your opponent isn't going to continue to shovel more chips into the pot without an extremely strong hand.

ap, i think this is a standard b/f spot otf against your avg opponent, especially one that hasn't been getting out of line

I think you should call and reevaluate

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You have backdoor 2 nfd, sfd peel and 2 pair outs possibly. I think especially to his sizing you must call here. His sizing is scary, but there are a lot of cards that could slow him down on turn.

i thought the fuzz rule has something to do with 12 year old girls.

If I call and re-evaluate, what cards am I hoping for on the turn? I guess what I'm hoping for on the turn is a check.

, A, K. Hope he bets small enough to keep you around. Suck out.

All that matters is the specific turn card when you are in the moment.

You want to be evaluating stuff like his line and bet sizing.

He's now your buddy, and buddies do not check raise their buddies with on pair... in general, i think a peel is in order here - maybe you can rep clubs if one falls on the turn with some FE and a draw?

Are you in position? i think i call and eval turn any card KQJ shod slow down 2 pair. When he bonvs turn you can fold. If he is typical llsnl baddie and a club comes he might even check turn. Fold unimproved.

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El oh el

Generally a good rule of thumb is if you are flipping, go ahead and put all the money in. The dead money already in there (~$75 here) will make it profitable.

Its kind of an iffy raise. I mean if he has a set or 2 pair most players would raise more at least 3 times your raise size . It looks like it could be AQ AJ just trying to see where he at and hopping to check it down (another Bart concept). I also doubt very much this is a flush draw...as they tend to make it bigger to get more fold equity...

I would call with position....If he checks the turn....I check it back, if he checks the river, I bomb it on a non club, hopping he reads me as a missed flush....If he shoves the the turn ....I fold ....against most passivish 1-2 players you can fold to the turn shove even though you put over 1/3 of your stack in.

^^^

This makes a lot of sense. I wish I would've played it like that.....