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Originally Posted by HomelessPizza
Very mubsy outlook. Funniest thing you said is that we have to be worried about loose passive V's at 1/3 turning their made hands into bluffs on certain runouts ...
and if V flops TPTK and we raise, how are we not getting the money in?? This only happens if you slowplay the flop which would be a big mistake.
Where did I say loose passives V's turning their made hands into bluffs on certain runouts? Lmao.
They could bluff missed straight draws on flush completing turns where flop started 6-way or say in rare occasions 4 to a flush. Or they can bluff on straightening cards when they miss their FD. You're going to call down every time and will never get bluffed off a set like other people have a number of x times? lol.
It's not mubsy. It's reality.
It's facts that we don't always win the max when we flop a set, although you may feel entitled to. What, you've never had a hand where you flopped a set multiway, cbet, and everyone folded? LOL. It's a fact 22-44 are -EV opens in a vacuum from UTG, whether you want to believe it or not.
You can lol all you want or call me a mubsy nit but it doesn't change the fact that on no planet 22-44 is a +EV open on more than 10% of your typical loose passives 1/3 tables from UTG.
If V flops TPTK and we raise. Hm. That means he would have to donk lead if he were OOP. Is this often? No. What if he's IP? That means we're c-betting, and he's probably not raising often either.
Let's say your scenario is true. OOP donk leads TPTK (A10) on 1072ss. We have 77. He's still folding vs a reraise x% of the time, or he flat calls and x/f on a flush completing card, A, K, Q, J, or even blank at x% frequency. That's how we don't get stacks in.
I never said anything about slowplaying for any reason. I never advocate slowplaying anything
unless we flop quads or just locked the board down so hard, and am a huge advocate of just betting straight for value when we have a monster.
You basically put words in my mouth in your entire post that have zero relevance and made a completely useless post.
Last edited by Minatorr; 08-17-2018 at 04:37 AM.