$1/3

V1 ($95) - YWG, doesn't seem good. Standard too loose-passive V. Nothing interesting here.

V2 ($435) - MABG - standard ABC rec. I've played with him before but I wouldn't quite put him in the reg category. Don't believe he has an image for H, but if he does I should be clean. H is probably a winning TAG in V's eye's.

H ($240) - sexy as hell (that's a bluff)

OTTH

V1 in mid position opens to $17. This should be a reasonably strong hand as he committing 20% of his stack already. V2 flats the $17 - should be top 15-20%. Folds to H in SB w/ AA. H makes is $55 thinking that I want to bet as much as I can while still allowing H to reopen the betting if V1 shoves and V2 calls. Is this a relevant concern for you guys?

V1 & V2 both call.

Flop ($163)
8TTr

Should be a good flop for me. At an SPR of 1.25 it's all going in basically no matter what. H isn't afraid of any draws and if either V has a T I'm paying them off. H believe's repping AK is optimal and checks, V1 checks, V2 makes it $70 and H back-shoves for $185 total, AI.

Thought is this lines allows basically all PP's and big broadways the opportunity to fire again whereas leading the flop allows a hero fold we don't want. With such a low SPR, a strong hand that isn't afraid of any turns I thought c/r was better than leading. Thoughts?

Also, I assume with the SPR, 3b action and H's hand no one is concerned about a T, if he has it, he has it, correct?

Is $17 a standard open in this game, or is it unusually large?

I prolly lead or c/c the flop here instead of CRAI. I fins LLSNL Vs to be non believers on paired boards, so I feel fine betting it mysels, being pretty sure I'm not losing PPs. If I did decide to check, I'd be doing so to let him take the lead, knowing that it will all go in on two bets. If he checks back, I'd delayed c-bet OTT.

Basically, we are WA/WB here, and board is dry given action, so I'm not very worried about free cards and it all goes in easily on two bets.

Literally every time I've made a raise size so that I could re open the action, should the original raiser/straddler shove it has backfired. With that in mind, I go $85 and set up a trivial flop shove spot.

Flop play is fine. We're not really concerned about getting drawn out on, so it's no big deal if the flop checks around. I personally just c bet shove the flop though.

I like 70pf.

Flop I prefer a small lead like 40. If I check I am check calling. I think crai is the worst line with AA.

So check/call the flop was obviously a viable plan question for those advocating for it, are you leading all turns or expecting to check/call again?

I didn’t want to c/c flop, have turn check through then lead river and have V fold his AK.

Check call turn. If turn checks Bet over pot on river, if this makes it close to shove then just shove.

Yup, that.

I like c/c flop & turn on the entire deck

Thanks everyone. I assume the c, c line is for AA specifically and not your whole 3b range?

Yup. Maybe with KKs as well. QQs- are too vulnerable imo to risk it checking through.

V1 and V2 have AQ, AJ, suited aces that we should charge imo. I'd pick a 1/4 sizing with KKs, QQs, JJs, A10, 88s, here

I think the advantage of having shorty reopen and the deeper stack cold call is huge. And your 3b is still 3x+, sure it's too small but not ridiculous. I would stick with 55.

I'm cbetting flop 40.

To others saying crai is bad - why?

There's nothing to protect from especially at these stack depths. All you are accomplishingj is shutting yourself out from getting value for the rest of his stack. Whether it be bluffs or weaker hands.

At this fairly small stack depth I'm not too concerned about sizing things so that the betting is re-opened. I simply aim to offer poorish ~8:1 IO to the deeper stack and our 3bet sizing accomplishes that.

On this fairly drawless flop I'm also totally cool with checking to induce weaker to overvalue. And the gig will be up once we continue so might as well jam the rest in there ASAP. And yeah, preflop has committed us, so I'm always handing my stack to someone with a T.

ETA: Against most bets, a check/raise will be << a minraise, so I'm still fine with it. More mandatory with smaller and more vulnerable overpairs, so I certainly don't hate a check/call with AA, but doubt there's much difference unless the flop bet is extremely small.

Gnicehand,imoG