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02-19-2020 , 05:19 PM

Magnum1111

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 598

Hey everyone,

I have a question about trying to keep stats, similar to HUD stats, during live play.

I understand VPIP and PFR, generally.

My question involves a specific situation.

-- I raise, villain 3 bets, I call. --

How should I count this toward VPIP and PFR?

Obviously, I opened the pot for a raise, so theoretically I should get one toward vpip and one toward pfr, but then I ultimately called.

How do you all think I should calculate that scenario when assessing "pre-flop raise" per-centage?

Thanks for your advice.

Magnum

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02-19-2020 , 08:41 PM

MikeStarr

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 7,962

Somoene correct me if Im wrong, but if the first 6 hands dealt to you, you fold 3 and 3 of them you raised and called a reraise, your VPIP is 50/50. The fact that you called a reraise doesnt figure in to those 2 numbers.

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02-19-2020 , 09:00 PM

Mr Spyutastic

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 15,130

VPIP and PFR should be 50%. Your call 3bet will be 100%.

So yes if you open a hand it counts towards VPIP and PFR.

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02-19-2020 , 09:12 PM

SABR42

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,069

Only your first action matters for PFR.

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02-20-2020 , 05:59 AM

6bet me

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,885

Everyone above is correct.

Your VPIP is 100% (since you raised initially)
Your PFR is 100% (since you raised initially)
Your Fv3bet is 0% (since you called the 3bet)
Your 4bet is 0% (since you didn't 4bet)

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02-21-2020 , 03:18 PM

QuantumSurfer

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,987

If you're trying to be a human pokertracker/HE Manager, you're wasting your time. Just pay attention to people's showdowns and lines and build their ranges that way. I mean, it's live poker. You could be there 8 hours and not even see 250 hands.

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