Same villain from this hand: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-10-a-1636171/. Since that hand we played a few other hands together.

Hand 1: V opens in co/button, hero 3! in BB/SB v calls. V folds to my cbet on the 852r.

Hand 2: I raise lp, v calls in sb or bb. Check raises my cbet of 40 to 200 on what I think was the Q84r but i cant remember exactly but it was dry. I folded.



Hero raises QhTc in HJ, villain calls in BB. Flop is Js9d8d, hero bets 45, v raises to 200, hero?

1500 effective stacks

raise 625 call

/thread

If villain wants to fast play than grant him his request. If somebody is raising you 4x on a wet board when you have the nuts it should be easy to figure what comes next.

Call, hope for blank on turn

So, from your PAHWM, this V is calling wide in the BB and x/f flop frequently. We suspect he's a competent reg and maybe even crushing the game.

His x/r range is going to be tailored to your tendencies if you have significant history. Otherwise I guess he x/r a somewhat balanced range somewhat skewed towards exploiting the player pool if that's possible in your game.

You've folded to this line on a dry board before so V can think he's got a viable exploit against you but he's going to curtail his bluff x/r on wet boards like this and will tend to have more value and big draws than outright bluffs or weak semibluffs.

You want to get as many chips in now as possible before scare cards to his 2pair/sets turn, some of which will complete his semibluffs and make you fear future bets. You also want to get more chips in now while V is drawing if he is semibluffing before the turn bricks and cuts his odds so he can't call as much on the turn (bearing in mind he doesn't realise some of his pair outs and straight outs are no good).

Since even V's bluffs have significant equity we are not gaining anything by calling flop to keep his bluffs in - his semibluffs can call a flop 3bet if we size it right. His made hands can shove flop vs a 3bet sometimes too.

Can we shove flop ourselves and get any calls?

The way I read your post is effective stacks are $1500 after flop action so far. Therefore hero has $1655 and V has $1500 after V's flop x/r. If that's correct and pot is around $305 then I think it is hard for V to call our flop shove. We'd be betting $1500 into $460 offering odds of 1.3 to 1! Not much can call that unless he figures you are tilted and semibluffing a lot here.

On the other hand we don't really want to min raise it giving good odds to draws, get called and then the turn pair the board or bring the flush. Then the pot would be around $900 with $1300 behind and us not knowing if we're good or not - kind of foldable but not really!

If we 3bet flop much bigger (say 3bet to $600) we're going to be on the turn with SPR <1 and unable to practically fold regardless of what comes.

So our options are:

1) 3bet flop to $600 and shove all turns. Obviously call a flop shove!

2) shove flop and make it look like a semibluff. if you think reverse tells will work then shove instantly, throw your chips in the pot and towards V, stare him down and announce you're allin as firmly as possible. If reverse tells won't work then shove fairly quickly and try to look nervous but not overexcited like you have the nuts. Don't tank shove though - too obvious.

1500ish effective pre total. I just added it at the end because I did not remember to add it in the beginning. Didnt mean to make it confusing.

Fold pre... now reraise and call it off. Flatting is FPS

Results of previous hand would be useful to know for how he might view you if this hand wasn't such a straightforward 3b/call. Too many cards OTT may either give him the best hand or kill your action, and most of his bluffs likely have very good equity + you can have a lot of semi bluffs too.

V has AKo in the previous hand

Really? QTo in the cutoff folded to you is a fold?

OMC's, fold pre. Winning players raise.

agree - 9 diamonds, 4 Q/T (u block 2 of them) , or at some frequencies the 3 T could be killing your action, or even a pair up board or even an A sometimes could kill your action, i think 600 is a good raise...

easy 3!, would hate for a diamond to hit ott if he has a legit hand and kill your action, or if he has a fd

gtfooh