Table: 2/5, Wednesday afternoon, 2:30 pm.

Hero: I've been pretty aggressive so far. Playing 32/20/3. Up a decent amount from my initial buy in. Bought in for $500, won a few hands (OP vs flush draw) and a few with raises and cBets. I've only shown down 2 hands. One was QQ when I raised pre flop. One was QTo when I raised in LP and got 1 caller. Flopped top pair and stacked someone with a PP below my TP after I checked the turn and he shoved.~200bb

Villain: He has been pretty quiet so far. Opened 3-4 times in the 1.5 hours that we've been at the table. He 3bet me once when I opened weak once (3bb instead of my normal 5bb+1bb/limper) and I folded. He's been opening 5bb pretty much all the time. One time he opened after 3 limpers and made it 6bb. He hasn't shown down a hand yet. cBets every hand, and won all 3 of them. 105bb

Pre:
A few folds
Hero opens from MP to 5bb with QQ
A few folds
V 3bets to 20bb from the BB
Hero flats

Flop (40bb): 742
V bets 25bb
Hero thinks for 10 seconds and jams for 85bb effective (60bb more)

Standard?
I'm not sure if I want to give him a chance to bet the turn again with any of his two high card type hands, AK, AQ or if I'm better off getting it in now.

Please put $ amounts because most of us are thinking in terms of $s rather than bbs when making a decision at the table.

Looks fine. Depends if you think he barrels turn with bluffs or not.

I'm fine with the jam.

I don't see us very often behind V given his line, combined with info/reads.

Really feels more like AK or JJ.

I also would prefer to 4b pre.

I like a 4 bet pre. Flop line looks good considering he is cbeting 100% of the time. He's playing this the exact same way TT+ and AQ+ so I think the jam is a profitable play, considering he is getting 2.5 to 1 on a call I expect him to call with that same range.

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What amount should we 4b/f to here pre

I wanted to check with CREV what are the exact EV of the different lines here.
Can someone gives me his estimation of Villains range so I can compare if mine are not too much out of the track?

1) 3-bet range
2) c-bet range
3) Call the shove range
4) 2nd barrel range
5) c/f range OTT

Thx!

It's kind of impossible to give him a 3bet range without using generalizations given it's live and we've only been playing with him for a little bit.

I like flatting pre IP and I love jamming flop because that's what we should be doing with our JTss and such.

Plus, I don't think this is a board where he is going to double barrel. What do we have that's going to call flop and fold turn? FDs maybe but we jam that OTF some % of the time.

Jtss is never seeing this flop

I guess. I'm still used to sizings from online 6max and didn't really look at the sizings this hand.

I am never 4b folding for 105bb effective stacks here. 4b to ~50bb, call all shoves and shove all flops.

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4betting for half your stack can't be the right play in almost any scenario. Std 4bet sizing online is 22BB and that is followed by a 5b jam. With sizings being bigger live i feel like 4b jamming over his 20BB 3bet is good if we are going to 4b

this but especially in a live 2/5 game there never stacking off pre without AA/KK/QQ

therefore flatting with QQ is optimal

then on this flop you can shove for value against his TT+ AQ+ range or random flush draws

well played

4betting wil fold out almost all hands you beat IMO vs typical villain-
however if hes a loose gamblish donk then yes 4betting is standard and the right play

but vs a random i flat and get it in on the flop