We have 450 in front. Bought in for 300. Have only played 2 hands. One where we opened pre on the button with A4 and took out a player that had 30 in front of him when we paired our ace on the river. Another when there was 4 callers of 18 and we call on button. Bet our top pair on the flop and get 1 caller, bet again on the turn and take down the pot.

Villain 1: Young asian. Seems competent. Tagish...likes to bomb pre with good hands. Have seen him shove 3 times pre. AK suited twice and AA once. All hands were multiway. Topped off his stack earlier when he was down. 340ish

Villain 2: MAWG, loose passive. Irrelevant to the hand.

We open UTG to 12 with QdQs. Villain 3! to 25 in MP. Villan 2 cold calls. We call...should I 4bet here? The min 3 threw me off. Too often in these lower limit games its AA...Think this guy would 3 bet larger with JJ-99, AQ. If I had to guess he would smooth smaller pairs and AJ-A10.

Flop: JsJh6d....I check, Villain 1 bets 35, Villain 2 mucks, We?

Call?
You said he bombs it pre with AA so I'm 4betting this all day expecting to be way ahead.

AP x/call all streets

The difference was in those hands it was multiway when the action was on him. I just had a tough time constructing a range for him that he would 3 bet that small that wasn't super nutted. I don't think he was that going to min 3 bet 66-77-88 or QJ-J10-KQ

If I do 4 bet what sizing? Do we go with it if he goes all in?

Tough choice. You get to end the action and see the flop for 6-to-1 odds, which is a good deal. I'm ok with a 4-bet of $90-100. It commits you if villain shoves and you assume his range is AK/KK+.

As played, check-call. It's a good flop and your QQ have a good chance of being the winner. I'd check any turn and prepare to c/r if it's a blank.

ah, the min 3. never fun to deal with OOP.

If villain is actually competent I'd expect him to size larger with KK-AA, since he'd know that 12 --> 25 gives his opponents good set mining odds. I'd expect him to have strong non-premiums here (JJ-QQ, AK) and maybe a few sooted broadways (KQ, JT) that's testing your UTG open.

VS this range, you can flat to keep in hands you dominate or 4-bet/fold for value. this

is really bad imo because it ensures that villain will continue with hands that crush you and fold hands that you beat. The only hand you get it in "good" against is AK. But sizing a smaller 4-bet, say to 75, may induce him to call with TT-JJ/KQ.

That said, I'm flatting this. You already know that villain has shipped AK pre, and it would be a disaster to fold 4-bet/fold QQ unless we know that villain only has super-premiums.

Time to go into check/call mode.

We call the 35 on the flop. Turn card is the 7. I thought about leading here to take control of the hand if he had worse and fold to a raise. Decided to keep his bluffs in and check again...villain bets 75 and I????

We are underrepped here. But if I call, Villan will only have a 2/3 pot bet left on the river....so he looks like he is sizing for a shove on the end.

Calling pre is fine.

4-bet/folding is really not good. And 4-bet/getting it in is maybe worse.

You don't want to get in > 150BB pre-flop. Nor do you want to 4-bet and fold.

Check/call flop is good.

Don't lead turn.

Check/decide turn, check/fold river.

If I just ignored what you said about V and was at my local tables. This is AKs+ AA-KK every time pre. When he takes this much aggression on a dry board I'm removing any AK. It's possible he knows you saw him bomb with premiums earlier and wants to rep a smaller hand. 4! pre is a fast way to go broke as you're basically playing for stacks at that point and he only continues with better (maybe you fold out QQ for him).

I put the likelihood that he's considering what you saw him do earlier at close to zero. Hand is played very well if you folded turn.

Results: I tanked on the turn for about 30 seconds and folded. Villain seemed comfortable and didn't give off a bluffing vibe. Villain told me later he had AA.

I think optimally I should have called one more street and check folded on the river. But I have no clue if Villain would shut down bluffs on the flop or fire a second barrel. Also I know a leak in my game is that I probably would have called it off on the River with the price I would be getting as long as an A or K didn't fall.

Looking at this hand again, I think you're right. Hero is too deep to push a 4bet. Calling pre is the superior choice.