Aggro player has not 3 bet much at all. Has called some raises pre and re-raised once when I opened UTG for $8 with ATs.

Someone else called and he reraised big to $30. I folded and villain ended up showing AKs.

Another hand aggro player is told he cannot straddle UTG (cards were out) and instead raises to $17. 2 callers to a flop of T93. Villain checks and MP player goes all in for $50. Villain snap calls with 95o. MP has KQss for gutshot, 2 overs and flush draw and does not improve.

I have QQ and raise to $12 (standard)

Aggro player is on the button and reraises to $45. Aggro player has ~ 140 more and I have him covered (~ $360).

Is this a standard shove? Is that betting too much? An aggro player such as him might shove over the top with worse hands than QQ. Do I want to see 5 cards against AK?

My thoughts on shoving are: He MIGHT call with 99 or TT. Prob calls with JJ or AK and def calls with AA KK QQ. His range for re-raising might be more than that. If I flat, any paint besides a Q could have me beat.

If I RR I am committed and have to call a shove unless I get some crazy soul read, right?

What would 2p2 do here?

hard to say depending on what villain does with TT JJ etc.

In this spot i think i would give villain benefit of doubt not to be raising TT etc and flat preflop.

Villain will most likely bluff on all sorts of flops if we check on flop since he is somewhat committed to follow the aggression thru.

ANL, so flat. What to do if a non-queen paint hits?

My question is, are you willing to race, are you up, and are you likely to stack him or someone else in a better spot? I think you are for sure ahead, putting him exactly on JJ or AKs. I do not think he is reraising that large with AAs and he MIGHT raise that big with Ks but even that is a bit large. I would assess your day, because villian is for sure calling. Remember, cash is about making the most money. So if you are at a table with a few fish, let it go and find a better spot.

I'm calling and check / shoving any flops with no K or A. If those hit I check/ re eval. I think shoving pre here isolates his range to QQ KK AA and AK, whereas if we call he will c-bet hard with any part of his range.

If an A or K hit, i would instabet 2 chips. At these limits players rarely raise say JJ with an Axx flop if you underbet. They call and look completely confused.

I would continue betting 2 chips until i got raised. If they have JJ they will happily calldown and see what the hell we are doing this with.


note: this is different situation than the QQ example we have in another thread.

Lots of questions here:

I don't think this is a standard shove, unless you've seen him get out of line with smaller PP's. However, you don't seem to indicate that.

Is what betting too much? Your pre-flop raise? It depends on game texture and what other people have been raising etc. But it's well within 'normal' parameters based on my experience.

Yes he might shove with worse hands but he's not calling your shove unless he has premiums...

AK vs. QQ's put QQ's at a slight advantage (of course) and if I had a few reloads and against a player I don't think I'll have many shots to get into better equity spots I take it. So seeing 5 against AK isn't the end of the world though against most 1/2 players there are CERTAINLY going to be better spots.

If a guy who rarely 3bets, 3bets.. It's likely JJ+/AK (again in my experience).

However, if you shove you are either behind (against AA/KK), Tied (against QQ), Racing (AK), dominating (JJ).

In this case there's only one combination of hands you are WAY ahead of. The rest, at best you are flipping with or behind to...

I flat to see what the flop brings and see where the hand goes from there. I'm not super married to QQ's in this spot so if the flop comes bad for us I can fold.

The bigger question (imo) is what do you do when you flat and the flop comes T high. Do you always lead out and fold if raised? Since his range basically consists of big pocket pairs and AK, I can see that being the right play, but I always live on the edge of Nitsville so maybe that's just me as well.

Thanks. I did flat and the flop came Axx.

I got chicken and checked. Villain bet all in and I folded. Villain shows JJ.

I keep telling myself I should have shoved, but, I like ANL's line as well.