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QQ on a monotone ace high flop. QQ on a monotone ace high flop.

09-01-2019 , 07:26 PM
1/2

V1 is a nitty middle aged guy with a transparent bet sizing tell. He opens the top of his range to $15-20, and opens smaller or limps with weaker hands.

V2 is a loose rec player with good card sense. I've seen him try to steal pots with large bluffs when he senses weakness. Generally he tries to stay out of my way.

V1 ($330) opens UTG to $10, Hero ($330) in UTG+2 raises QQ to $30, V2 ($330) quickly calls in MP1, V1 calls.

Flop: AT3 ($90)

V1 checks, Hero checks, V2 bets $100 ($200 behind), V1 folds, Hero?

Although he is a very loose player, I think V2 is flatting preflop with a tight range in the spot. AJo and KQo definitely aren't in his range. He might have something like 88+,AK,AQ plus some suited broadway hands at partial frequencies.


I want to understand how I am playing my entire preflop range here, which is something like {TT+,AK,AQs,KQs,QJs (partial),A5s}

I think JJ,QQ (no club), KK (no club) are maybe check giveups? While I am betting all my Ax (no club), AA, TT, and flopped flushes OTF. Which leaves me wondering how to play AxK, KxK, and QxQ.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 09-01-2019 at 07:54 PM.
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09-01-2019 , 08:58 PM
Bet flop
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09-01-2019 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Bet flop
Thanks that could indeed be simpler.

Are you also betting QQ (no club)?
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09-01-2019 , 09:29 PM
I posted a very similar HH over the winter and everyone destroyed me for betting the flop. But I still like betting the flop lol. I admit betting this flop 3-way is ambitious.

Last edited by Spanishmoon; 09-01-2019 at 09:35 PM.
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09-01-2019 , 09:34 PM
We don't want to call an overbet with a FD. I'm folding here. V2 stays out of your way and now he bets large, he could have Ax (A2-A9) or even a low flush already.

I've seen some decent players snap-call their paired A9-all-in vs weak players holding JJ-KK. If you show weakness and they paired their A, they are calling you down.

Here we lose to sets, Ax and flush. We can only beat a bluff or hope a club or a Q come to rescue us.

For argument sake, if we call 100 and Turn is a 7d, what do we do if he bets or shove?

[Alternative play, bet 35 flop, fold to a raise]
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09-01-2019 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Thanks that could indeed be simpler.

Are you also betting QQ (no club)?
Not 3 ways oop no.
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09-01-2019 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suave-wizard
We don't want to call an overbet with a FD. I'm folding here. V2 stays out of your way and now he bets large, he could have Ax (A2-A9) or even a low flush already.

I've seen some decent players snap-call their paired A9-all-in vs weak players holding JJ-KK. If you show weakness and they paired their A, they are calling you down.

Here we lose to sets, Ax and flush. We can only beat a bluff or hope a club or a Q come to rescue us.

For argument sake, if we call 100 and Turn is a 7d, what do we do if he bets or shove?

[Alternative play, bet 35 flop, fold to a raise]
To be clear, I am not considering calling here as played. I wonder if it would be possible to construct a check/raise range on this flop with AxK, KxK, and possibly QxQ

I'm not sure if I like the small 1/3 pot bet on this flop. It seems like a spot where I should either bet 2/3ish pot or check.
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09-01-2019 , 10:59 PM
nah xf is fine ap, building a xr raise otf vs an overbet seems pretty ambitious.

bet or check flop can go either way imo, depends on how wide or how tight the cold-caller's range is. The UTG V is very wide and don't particularly care about him, and i doubt he's going to xr us often
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09-01-2019 , 11:15 PM
I make this to be a cbet 0f 50-60 with any QQ re and would not recheck hole cards post flop before betting.
Lets get everyone out or charge draws and realize the profit of our pre flop aggression.
Evaluate turn, with the club we are behind sets, KK, AkC and have outs against straights and smaller flushes.
if the board does not pair on the turn I am more inclined to Bet/not fold to put pressure on anyone who paired their ace.

new poster interested in what ChrisV, Minatorr and Lapidator think
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