1/2 7 handed

Game is OK for a Tuesday night. One whale just busted and left leaving a couple tighter players mixed in with some donkish reggy types.

Hero: pretty well known to the table as a tough customer. 3rd hand doubled through the whale with AK for 3 barrels. Later doubled whale back up when he comically flopped trips on a J62 flop. Of note, I did 3 bet V1 a few minutes ago when he opened small. ($399)



Villain (Btn) has attempted and failed to bluff me in the past. His thing is betting big with all of his hands. He'll bet up to pot with value and semi bluff hands. Also not afraid to raise. Is capable of making folds as well. Pretty sure he wins in this pool although I'd not describe him as good. He recently stacked the whale and now has a good stack. He called my 3 bet earlier with A5s. Donked an ace high flop and folded to a raise. He looks like Don Rickles if he were still breathing and were about 25 years younger. (Covers)


I can't decide if I played this hand great or completely backwards.

Hand:

Folds to Don on the Btn. He raises to $8. Hero in SB sees QQ and raises to $25. Don quickly calls.

Note: preflop seems pretty standard. I think his range is actually stronger than the standard Btn open range because I think he'd let the blinds chop a lot of times so I think he wanted to play the hand.

Flop: 764 ($52)
Hero?

I'd bet $20. Let's start building a pot, and get some value from mediocre holdings.

Betting out. Probably for about $35 against most guys. I may go a little smaller here as he's prone to raising and I'd like to save a little bit for the turn.

I'd bet around $35. He's not buying that you have the nuts with a check anyway. I'm less concerned about a raise from him than a call.

I'm up for $35 as well.

$40
next

$25-$30. I would be happy if he went away right now but I don't expect it to happen. I'm betting a bit small because I don't expect him to go away and I don't want to bloat the pot too much plus the risk he might raise. This is a situation where balancing aggression and pot size looks to be important.

Cbetting here 100% of my range. So want to keep it on smaller side. $30-35.

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It's really awful cbetting 100% of your range here.

Extrapolated please

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BTN has massive range advantage, and betting a lot of your range esp 100% is the exact opposite of what you should do.

This flop hits small portion of either ranges.

Button does not have range advantage given reads in the OP. Neither range is capped. (Assuming we are not a nit)

We have extremely high fold equity on this flop. Which is nice, since majority of our range is overcards.

I cbet less than any live player I know. Also raise pre wider than 90% of players.

This is fairly easy cbet. With majority of our range.

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Giving V a massive range advantage here is a massive mistake imo. Bet $35 to get value from a massive part of his range.

So I think there's two ways to go after this spot and the decision has to be made right here and now.

1. The standard way. Bet and charge worse. This has a lot of merit because he absolutely has a lot of hands in his preflop calling range that will stick around if not raise. You have to decide right now that you're willing to stick 200bb in with this one with this line.

2. See if you can get him to value town himself since that's his tendency. You risk losing value a lot of the time. You also get to evaluate the hand a little bit more easily.

It seems most people agree that option one is the way to go. I'm not going to argue that. In the moment I selected option two. I am not at all married to this as the best choice.


Flop: 765 ($52)
Hero checks. Don forcefully bets $50 as is his way. Hero calls.

I'm assuming most are just calling now? Maybe trying to get all in is best? I really am undecided on almost every point on this hand.

Turn: 2 ($152) $324 back.
Hero?

Op,

Are you folding at any point in this hand?

Probably not although I'd get a little squirmy if he ships or like a nonclub ace peels off.

Welp, before I saw the flop action, I was going to say, $35 doesn't get stacks in since we no foldy. $50 better.

As played, if he's going to do all the work, you should at least wipe that stupid grin off you face while you call him down.

Welp turn changes nothing.
And if it does, pay the man.

Given his bet sizing on the flop, I expect him to barrel 100% of the time on the turn, so check.
The only question is this a
check/min raise cram river
or
check/call check/cram river
or
check/call open cram river
or
check/shove the turn kind of day

I generally like the ck/min raise cram most rivers line.

Interesting check OTF with the Qc. Don't hate it. However, the near PSB worries me. If he's bluffing or vbetting worse, why bet so big? However, obv can't fold.

Turn is very interesting. Just calling again. Not really thrilled.

I think this is the problem with checking to trap, if he pumps lot of $$$ into the pot on blank cards, you don't know if you're ahead or behind.

Got a feeling we're going to the felt.

Curious to know results?

bet $50 on flop. as played I x/r all-in. you should be getting called down by worse overpairs as a x/r all-in will most likely be percieved as AcKx imo. I try to go all-in as much as possible when I play it really befuddles your opponents and eventually they start calling you down with weak pairs.

tell that to Barry Greenstein.

Got proof? I seriously dont any pro player advocates cbetting 100% of your range on this board given dynamics. It's seriously terrible, and if you have even some modicum knowledge about ranges/GTO & think about it for a couple of minutes, it should be pretty obvious why.

And if Greenstein did advocate that (which I doubt he did), he needs to realize it's 2017 now.

I agree that the flop decision should drive how the rest of the hand plays. You decided to play this passively. Therefore, you check the turn and see what he does.

Since you don't have him as a sophisticated players, his bet means he doesn't have the nuts. I'd put his range at a low flush, over pair, or even a set. He's going to bet big again to discourage you from calling with what in his mind is a FD (which you actually are working with).

Turn: 2 ($152) $324 back
Hero checks. Don forcefully bets $100. Hero?

I think IR2M has the options about right. There's a lot of ways to go about this one.

Will villain bluff river? If he will give up river a lot when you call turn then move in now. If he will often continue on river then let him. Generally favor calling because raising lets the total air and weak hands off the hook. You probably can't fold any river because of stack sizes so that isn't a concern.

My vote is call.

I stick with my plan.
I make it $200 and put the rest (should be $130?) in on the river.

But I don't hate check/call either here.
The only problem with check/call is that I think it means we really ought to be checking the river as well, and I think he checks back the river more often than we would like.

Maybe not as often as the population, but still more often than we'd like.