Hero 1200$ 1/2

QQ in HJ

Have seen utg+1 flat my 3bet with AA when hero had QQ. Younger guy. Seems to like to be trappy but can also make loose calls. Is eff stack with 400ish

Utg+1 raise to 10$
Hero 3bet 35$
Utg+1 Calls

Flop ($78) T72r
Check hero 35$, villain call

Turn ($158) 9r
Villain donks for 80$, hero?

A fold could be really nitty, but what hands is he calling flop and donking turn. Very strange way to play the hand. At this point I'm thinking what am I ahead of here. He called my 3bet pre. Tx, JJ maybe? Feels like a set but why would he donk. It feels like he has a made hand and is scared if me getting there. Maybe he put me on JJ and doesnt want to see an 8? Idk

The fact I've seen him slow play aces and other big hands has me worried. But if hes slow playing aces why is he leading the turn?

Whenever I see this behavior it's usually because they have gained a ton of equity but they dont have the nuts yet. 89 on the low end and 2 pair or better on the high end. Call and evaluate river. Maybe he gives you a good price like $50 or something silly.

Not a great spot. TT/99/77/22/J8s/86s/97s/T9 all possible. Wouldn't fault a fold, but AT/KTs-JTs/98s/J9s are within reason & probably check (or small block bet) river, so calling to reevaluate on the river is arguable.

Results:

He might've had it this time, but I strongly discourage making folds like this in the future

Wow nice fold, would of peeled turn and then hated life when he bet river lol

The only reason I can think of why he aborted his trap was because he suddenly became scared with the increasing coordinated textured of the board. Even though it shouldnt really help you, the last thing he wants to see is a J or 8 peel on the river and then think he's lost the hand, or at a minimum cant extract any value from worse.

I'd say 90% of the time I'm not folding unless I have some kind of read like I did here. This just felt like I was beat considering the way he played other hands prior to this and how he played AA. Without that info I'm probably just calling and reevaluating on the river. If I had KK or AA I'm probably never folding. Felt like a spot where if I'm folding an overpair its only going to be JJ/QQ. JJ leaning more toward a call with the straight outs too. I think of all my overpairs in this spot QQ is the best to get rid of. I feel like I need to balance a little here. I can't call with all overpairs just because they are overpairs. <- This might be flawed thinking but that's how I thought about it in the moment. He could take this line with JJ+ as well.. so if I have KK+ the most he can have is one overpair on me. Though you are right, folds like this are bad in most cases. I think if the board came like 8 high I probably wouldn't fold either since we could be ahead of 99-JJ.

Some players might do this with Tx or some other wonky hands, but he didn't seem like one of them.. especially considering preflop action and his past actions. It seemed like if he had a decent hand but not good enough to GII he would x/c. He wouldn't want to see a raise. Seems like a specific situation due to the players tendencies

Yeah I have no idea, I hadn't seen him get out of line before this either.. at least if he has he's always gotten away with it because no showdown.

In my experience online donk bets come when opponent has a good hand, and they are afraid the draws get there. So If I have little chance to improve my equity I fold more than what is probably considered advisable.

Having said this I would call and re evaluate river. Perhaps he checks or gives you a good price. If he is a decent player and it is one card to the straight you might want to bluff but obviously it is a high variance play and should do it with players that can fold. In my limited experience it seems at these stakes it should be 95% value bets.