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08-11-2017 , 01:47 PM
been playing for an hour have a pretty solid image have shown down winners, early on in session we ended up going 3 ways in an opened pot (pfb-12) honestly forget what I have here its totally irrelevant this happened awhile ago, anyway older Asian guy makes it 20 1 caller I go for the squeeze and make It 75. Asian guy unfortuanly had jj flopped set I mucked later on in the hand .......


now I pick up queens abt a few orbits later in the hijack I open to 12 folds to button, button makes it 45 , bb calls I feel like after the sqeeze attempt I am viewed as a little spewy and i am a younger player so totally understandable, the 45 seemed pretty strong looking back I defiantly should have raised( button is playing like a maniac over valuing hands downing beers bunch of tattoos n **** lol) but I call 45 and go 3 ways, flop: 10 10 4 , ( button is a rec player and bb is a reg pretty competent player id think ) BB checks I bet 90 button folds and bb check raises me all in I have abt 650ish and he has me covered ? any opinions much appreciated.



for the line I took to just flat I feel like a check on the flop would be ideal, pretty much have to fold in this spot.... I feel like i fked up pf idk

Last edited by jwins24; 08-11-2017 at 02:10 PM. Reason: forgot to add
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08-11-2017 , 01:50 PM
since I flatted having it be a paired 10 high board checking is def probably the best play, both players could have a 10 and if im ahead pf I am still ahead now and vice versa

Last edited by jwins24; 08-11-2017 at 02:13 PM.
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08-11-2017 , 03:23 PM
What range are you putting him on to flat-call the big 3! out of position? Seems likely to be JJ given the blockers on the board and in your hand. Some will slow play AA and KK preflop I guess. With his x/raise all in it looks like he doesn't want to make decisions later with potential over cards hitting so I am leaning to JJ and thinking you should call.
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08-11-2017 , 03:30 PM
As played easy fold in flop which I think you know, this is a huge raise. A reg cold-calling that much from BB smells like JJ+ (and AKs) and more likely weighted to KK / AA hoping you and button do all the betting for him. For the same reason I think 4-betting preflop is too risky since that's when BB can fist-pump jam.

I don't like betting the flop. If button is a maniac let him bet the flop, then you get to see what BB does before you put any more money in. Even if button checks flop the only bad turns are K of A since it's an unconnected rainbow flop, and if it does check through BB is going to bet the turn if he has a real hand. I think BB having a T is pretty unlikely especially with such a big shove, slowplay would be more profitable since a T is never folding that board anyway.

Edit: just saw other response... JJ maybe still in range but I think KK/AA are just as prevalent and it's a huge bet to read for one specific hand you can beat.

Edit: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...mplate-770217/

Last edited by tuds38; 08-11-2017 at 03:50 PM.
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08-11-2017 , 04:24 PM
Calling pre ok. Betting flop is not ok. Betting flop for 90 is not ok. Calling BB ck-jam is not ok. BB jamming is not ok.
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08-11-2017 , 04:33 PM
he showed j10
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08-11-2017 , 04:33 PM
This hand is a train wreck. How much is the button playing? How often does he 3!? Why did you lead the flop?

As played, you have to fold. And the BB is not a competent reg. He is terrible.
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08-11-2017 , 04:36 PM
thanks guys for the responses !
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08-11-2017 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jwins24
he showed j10
Haha what? Yeah "competent reg" cold-calling 45 cold with TJ is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as check-overjamming extremely disguised trips on a dry flop, he did you a massive favor with that bet.
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08-11-2017 , 04:40 PM
I know for just flatting the 40 pre could def be a mistake we were very deep so I didn't want him to 5 bet me so I flatted the 40 a we went 3 ways sincei flatted I feel as if a check is the best play but I lead lol def a mistake on my part and if I do 4 bet I am most likely going to fold out a 10 again I just didn't want to get 5 bet which could've been a mistake idk
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08-11-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tuds38
As played easy fold in flop which I think you know, this is a huge raise. A reg cold-calling that much from BB smells like JJ+ (and AKs) and more likely weighted to KK / AA hoping you and button do all the betting for him. For the same reason I think 4-betting preflop is too risky since that's when BB can fist-pump jam.

I don't like betting the flop. If button is a maniac let him bet the flop, then you get to see what BB does before you put any more money in. Even if button checks flop the only bad turns are K of A since it's an unconnected rainbow flop, and if it does check through BB is going to bet the turn if he has a real hand. I think BB having a T is pretty unlikely especially with such a big shove, slowplay would be more profitable since a T is never folding that board anyway.

Edit: just saw other response... JJ maybe still in range but I think KK/AA are just as prevalent and it's a huge bet to read for one specific hand you can beat.

Edit: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...mplate-770217/
thanks bro ! I didnr want to 4 bet pre and than face a 5 bet super deep but def a mistake for me leading the flop conserdiing i did flat
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08-11-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
This hand is a train wreck. How much is the button playing? How often does he 3!? Why did you lead the flop?

As played, you have to fold. And the BB is not a competent reg. He is terrible.
lol I litterly see him their all the time so I would assume he was somewhat competent and was stuck a buy in of 5 and rebought after calling w a two pair hand when an old nit was playing into him on a super wet board .... nit had the nits obv. so tht lead suspicion to me abt him shoving but idk again checking and check folding are my best options maybe a 4 bet pre.. and button just as deep abt 650-7ish behind
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08-11-2017 , 04:52 PM
I might have to get hammered and come to the H tonight.
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08-11-2017 , 04:53 PM
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I might have to get hammered and come to the H tonight.
lol def a good room if your gonna get hammered hit the trop haha
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08-11-2017 , 05:28 PM
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lol def a good room if your gonna get hammered hit the trop haha
Ohhhhh you're back east... too far.
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08-11-2017 , 06:46 PM
yerp ac
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