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QQ on button, facing 4bet, deep QQ on button, facing 4bet, deep

09-01-2015 , 08:19 AM
Prague casino, blinds 10-20 (local currency, about 0.5$-1$). Me and villian have 10,000 (500bb deep).
UTG raises to 60, 3 callers. I make it 320 with QQ on the button. Villian on SB makes it 950. He is unknown player, didn't see him playing a hand for last 3 orbits. Everyone folds to me.
What is the right way to handle the situation? 5-bet/fold? Set mining? Do you call cbet on low flop?
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09-01-2015 , 09:39 AM
Unless you have some reason to think otherwise, fold QQ to a villain 4 betting 1/10th of his stack. That is enough that you can't set mine or 5 bet/fold and you will be flying blind on most flops if you flat.

With KK this can be a hard decision, but QQ and worse should just be folded unless villain is very aggressive/bluffy. The combined chance villain has AA/KK or has AK and will hit make playing QQ unprofitable. You need to have good reason to think villain has a decent number of bluffs and light raises in his range before continuing with QQ will show a profit in the long run.
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09-01-2015 , 10:54 AM
I think this is a fold. The only way it might be a call is if you have been 3-betting relentlessly and UTG is loose and has been raising a lot.
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09-01-2015 , 11:50 AM
without any reads, what is the range of a cold 3x 4bet in llsnl? I would say about 80% AA, 10% KK, 5% AK and 5% everything else.

especially if he hasn't played a hand in 3 orbits (about an hour):

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Originally Posted by PopTheCherry
didn't see him playing a hand for last 3 orbits.
this deep I wouldn't call to setmine. I would need to know he will squeeze light, but we don't know. Calling would be the higher variance play but there is nothing really wrong with it. Only reason is we have position
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